LISTSERV mailing list manager LISTSERV 16.0

Help for ARSCLIST Archives


ARSCLIST Archives

ARSCLIST Archives


ARSCLIST@LISTSERV.LOC.GOV


View:

Message:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Topic:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

By Author:

[

First

|

Previous

|

Next

|

Last

]

Font:

Proportional Font

LISTSERV Archives

LISTSERV Archives

ARSCLIST Home

ARSCLIST Home

ARSCLIST  April 2015

ARSCLIST April 2015

Subject:

Re: Disasters at Commercial Archives

From:

David Lewis <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:20:06 -0400

Content-Type:

text/plain

Parts/Attachments:

Parts/Attachments

text/plain (96 lines)

Again, from the world of film, the MGM vault fire of 1967. What made this
especially depressing was that up to that point their
silent film holdings were fairly complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_MGM_Vault_fire

"London After Midnight" remains the most avidly sought silent feature film
of all.

According to James Card, there were three -- count 'em, three -- sizable
vault fires at MOMA during Iris Barry's tenure as head, one
taking away 2/3rds of the collection. They had a complete print of the
Theda Bara "Cleopatra" (1917) which was last shown in 1953;
today, only a 33-second outtake exists of this 3-hour epic.

A 1965 fire wiped out the entire holdings of Westminster Films in
California, a small producer of religious films. I helped to recover
some unique prints of these films in Indiana in the early 2000s during an
ARSC research grant that I was awarded.

A 1963 fire destroyed the holdings, and put out of business, the LA-based
firm of Tempo Records.

Ditto a 1959 fire that "killed" the label 49th State in LA. Malcolm
Rockwell would know more about that one than I do.

Given all of the disasters befall archival holdings of media, I'm surprised
that we have anything at all. But -- we have a lot, and there
are still a lot of neglected collections out there. One thing that seems
standard is that information about film-related disasters is more
readily at hand than those affecting recorded sound, and I think that's due
to the fact that film archivists are far more vocal about such
matters than those concerned with audio. Anyone have an idea as to why we
are so tight-lipped?

best,

David N. "Uncle Dave" Lewis
Hamilton, OH


On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Frank Scott <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I seem to recall that the BBC were ready to destroy the original Monty
> Python masters had not one of the Pythons stepped in to fund the cost of
> preservation.
>
> Most famously they destroyed the January 1963 performance of the play
> "Madhouse On Castle Street" which included a young Bob Dylan performing
> four songs including what would have been the first television or radio
> performance of "Blowin' In The Wind." The destruction was done in 1968,
> long after Dylan had achieved worldwide fame!
>
> Frank Scott
> Roots & Rhythm
> P.O. Box 837
> El Cerrito, CA 94530, USA
> [log in to unmask]
> 510-526-8373
> TOLL FREE:  888-ROOTS-66
> www.rootsandrhythm.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CJB
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 05:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Disasters at Commercial Archives
>
> Of course there was the unmitigated disaster of the BBC junking many of
> its archives including whole series of Doctor Who, to say nothing of
> numerous comedy series such as Dads's Army. And their radio archives were
> similarly junked, especially anything to do with the genre of 'folk.'
>
> All of this was in the 1970s/80s/90s.
>
> The Beeb even produced radio programmes about its lost archives.
>
> The scandal is that many 'lost' programmes were home-taped by enthusiasts.
> These are regularly found and offered back to the Beeb.
> Most returns are declined unless they are commercially valuable such as
> Clitheroe Kid, Navy Lark, etc.
>
> So the programmes then start to appear on various torrent and usenet
> sites. But then the uploaders are served with 'take down' notices - even if
> the Beeb has refused acceptance of 'lost' recordings it doesn't itself have.
>
> These websites explain more ...
>
> http://missingepisodes.proboards.com/
>
> http://wipednews.com/
>
> CJB.
>

Top of Message | Previous Page | Permalink

Advanced Options


Options

Log In

Log In

Get Password

Get Password


Search Archives

Search Archives


Subscribe or Unsubscribe

Subscribe or Unsubscribe


Archives

July 2020
June 2020
May 2020
April 2020
March 2020
February 2020
January 2020
December 2019
November 2019
October 2019
September 2019
August 2019
July 2019
June 2019
May 2019
April 2019
March 2019
February 2019
January 2019
December 2018
November 2018
October 2018
September 2018
August 2018
July 2018
June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004
August 2004
July 2004
June 2004
May 2004
April 2004
March 2004
February 2004
January 2004
December 2003
November 2003
October 2003
September 2003
August 2003
July 2003
June 2003
May 2003
April 2003
March 2003
February 2003
January 2003

ATOM RSS1 RSS2



LISTSERV.LOC.GOV

CataList Email List Search Powered by the LISTSERV Email List Manager