Tom,

Getting back to your question about different programs having difference
levels of support for embedded metadata, though out of date, it'd be worth
your while to go over this study:
http://www.arsc-audio.org/pdf/ARSC_TC_MD_Study.pdf

Jim


On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Ditto on the thanks to Dave Rice. I have learned quite a bit about this
> topic today. I still won't use FLAC as my primary PCM-write format, but I
> use it all over my house and studio as a backup and stream-access format.
>
> It's also worth noting, along the lines of what Paul Stamlber said, that
> because FLAC files reduce the storage need per second of audio, it's a
> great format for transmission and also for the new generation of portable
> players such as by Sony, Pono and A&K.
>
> Given that no other major company except Apple seems to have patent-lawyer
> issues with FLAC's open-source-ness, I will opine that this is a phantom
> menace created by Apple to justify sticking with their proprietary lossless
> format. If lossless downloads ever catch on mass-market with Amazon and
> Google, it's more likely that Apple gadgets and computers will deal with
> FLAC natively, and less likely that mass-market retailers will go to the
> trouble of selling proprietary ALAC alongside open-source FLAC. For what
> it's worth, on a modern (circa 2013) Windows 7 Lenovo workstation, ripping
> a CD to FLAC using dBPowerAmp takes less than 1/4 the time of ripping the
> same CD to ALAC in the latest iTunes for Windows.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L. Hess" <
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] another file format question
>
>
>
>  Hi, Tom,
>>
>> iZotope has an option to save all metadata (as apparently does FLAC (the
>> container)). Otherwise, only metadata the program knows about is saved.
>>
>> Hi, Dave,
>>
>> One thing we have is the ability to embed MD5 checksums in WAV files with
>> the custom-written software BWFMETAEDIT. However, I have found this
>> software a bit problematic from time to time. It was sponsored by a US
>> Federal Government initiative.
>>
>> Thanks for the further insight. This was the type of discussion I was
>> hoping to engender when I posted the original message.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-05-18 1:25 PM, Tom Fine wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dave Rice, et al:
>>>
>>> Another question about the WAV file format. Why is dBPowerAmp's CD
>>> ripper able to write tag metadata to WAV files, and all of my various
>>> player software able to read them (Foobar2000, iTunes for Windows,
>>> Logitech server and player software), but if I open the WAV file in Sony
>>> Soundforge, do anything to it and then save it, the tag information is
>>> gone? Also, someone I sent one of these WAV files claimed his software
>>> -- either Protools or Logic -- said the file was "corrupted." So what's
>>> going on there? Soundforge and Harrison Mixbus software for Windows have
>>> no trouble opening these WAV files, but seem to discard the tag info or
>>> at least don't save it when work has been done on the file.
>>>
>>> -- Tom Fine
>>>
>>>  --
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>>
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