Tom, I think it was briefly touched on in this thread but even if not, I
recall hearing that there was a sense of sharp=brighter (or perhaps more
On 2015-05-05 10:15 AM, Tom Fine wrote:
> Richard, I agree. Even in the tape era (where we can assume some level
> of competence vis-a-vis speed/pitch on recording and playback -- but not
> always), there is a wide range of pitching. I don't understand why the
> German and Austrian orchestras sometimes tuned sharp. Why? What is the
> basis of that concept?
> -- Tom Fine
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] A-440, was speaking of pitch
>> I agree, Steve, and so noted that in the original message, but my
>> assumption (which could be incorrect) was that the compilers of the
>> video might have used restored recordings which, hopefully, had been
>> properly pitched by the restorer...I know we've been discussing that
>> is not always the case.
>> Even if we throw out the pre-1950 recordings to eliminate the "78"
>> ambiguity, it is still quite startling.
>> On 2015-05-05 9:43 AM, Steve Smolian wrote:
>>> Many 78s were recorded at speeds above and, more often, below 78.26.
>>> This wild card makes such comparisons questionable.
>>> Steve Smolian
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard L. Hess Sent: Tuesday, May 05,
>>> 2015 9:18 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST]
>>> A-440, was speaking of pitch
>>> Getting back on topic, my son Robert, the music student, passed on this
>>> link to me--I don't think that I had mentioned this thread but we had
>>> been talking about variations in recordings (specifically in regards to
>>> Dvorak's New World Symphony (9th now after renumbering)).
>>> So here are the opening chords of Beethoven's Eroica (3rd) Symphony,
>>> recorded between 1924 and 2011.
>>> And here is a similar compilation of a short section from Stravinsky's
>>> Rite of Spring from 1921-2010
>>> Yes, I know that the recording technology influences the pitch as much
>>> as the actual playing, but, overall, I think these two are very
>>> informative peeks into the degree of variation considered "normal."
>>> The first Toscanini performance of the Beethoven really shows off the
>>> dry acoustic of what I assume to be Studio 8H at 30 Rock...and perhaps
>>> why, in 20/20 hindsight, it wasn't such a good idea, though it seemed
>>> to make sense at the time.
>>> As an aside, my friend the late Dr. Gerre Hancock, after bringing the
>>> choir of Men and Boys from St. Thomas Church to ABC TV-2 studio on W
>>> 66th Street in NYC for a holiday season appearance on "Good Morning
>>> America" asked me why I built studios that sounded like "pillow
>>> Get out your tuners or pitch pipes and enjoy! If you have perfect pitch
>>> and are offended easily, please don't listen <smile>.
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>> Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.
Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask]
Aurora, Ontario, Canada 647 479 2800
Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.