Try using your declicker in noise only mode and subtractively combine the result w the various sides/angles.
I'm finding this useful on stereo 45s where the teen age player chewed up the L-R ... often slightly more damage on the outer groove. Deriving an L-R with a strategic left-right channel imbalance/delay/azimuth chaser will max the common noise. Invert it out of the L-R ... Recombine and adjust the channel imbalance and you're all set.
All I'm suggested is a more involved and variegated way of doing what is being done electrically but w more precision.
Please pardon the misspellings and occassional insane word substitution I'm on an iPhone
> On May 6, 2015, at 10:42 AM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> For myself, I do not "Declick" or run any noise reduction before combining
> the channels (which I do on the computer, not from cartridge wiring). The
> reason is that you want as much noise as possible to cancel when combining
> the channels. The noise that is going to cancel is in both channels but
> with opposite phase. For example, although a loud click may be louder in
> one channel that the other, the less loud one will still be the
> corresponding "negative" that will bring down the louder one in other
> channel, even if not completely. And a number of such "pairs" are equal in
> strength, or close to it. Anything you have done to one channel or the
> other with a computer program will interfere with this cancellation
> process, so combining the channels should be done first. The same is true
> for ordinary groove wall noise in a mono LP, much of which will cancel
> itself out when the channels are combined.
> The reason not to wire the cartridge to mono is that sometimes one channel
> (groove wall) is a mess while the other one comes thru OK, and you want to
> be able to access the good side to assemble to best result. If you have
> already combined the channels, you have put the mess in both channels
> already, where you can't pull the channels apart. So I keep an original
> "stereo" version on the computer, even though I am working on the one where
> the channels have been combined, in case I find that I need it.
> John Haley
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:21 AM, James Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Thank you, Richard.
>> I believe the alignment is perfect.
>> I am certainly learning about these Edison Diamond Disks.
>> Now, I'm using the vertical wired cartridge with the 3.5 FCR stylus but
>> not "monofying" with the Y adapter.
>> After the transferring and declicking I'll merge the 2 tracks.
>> It's amazing that so much noise disappears just by using those two
>> Sometimes, however, there's still noise I can't eliminate and it's usually
>> at the beginning of the record for about 45 seconds.
>> I appreciate everyone's suggestions! Thank you all!
>> Ben Roth
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>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Playing Edison Diamond discs
>> Have you checked your cartridge alignment? I'm slowly learning about discs
>> but Doug Pomeroy has discussed this in several venues to far greater
>> detail. There is a corollary in cartridge alignment similar to azimuth in
>> tape head alignment. If this is off, it will make what you are trying to do
>> less effective.
>> Richard L. Hess email: [log in to unmask]
>> Aurora, Ontario, Canada 647 479 2800
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