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Re: LP's

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:27:21 -0400

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Hi John:

I'm not sure you are correct in all cases in all states. I think you are stating one interpretation 
of fair use, but it's not been 100% settled out in the courts. That said, I think the major record 
companies discovered the folly of suing customers, and probably don't have much appetite to go after 
a university library.

That said, for budget reasons as well as copyright reasons, I strongly suggest that any library out 
there obtain titles on CD if they are in print, and circulate that audio. This is closer to the 
letter of the law about fair use. For out of print LP audio, I do agree with John that there 
shouldn't be a copyright issue. I have a lawyer letter in my files stating the same opinion, because 
I've done transfer work for private collectors who want their LP collection on their digital server 
or iPod. The rules I set are simple -- either you research it on Amazon and CDUniverse, or pay me to 
do it , but I want us to be sure that a title is truly out of print before I undertake a transfer. 
I'm sure this has cost me thousands in studio fees (and saved the client thousands with the same end 
result for them), but it helps me sleep well.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Haley" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP's


> Amanda, someone suggested you may have a copyright problem.  That's not the
> case, if you are working for a university library and are archiving your
> collection for library use.  That is clearly covered under the "fair use"
> doctrine.
>
> Best,
> John Haley
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:37 AM, James Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Greetings, Amanda
>>
>> I don't have any words of advice, although I do agree with the advice that
>> Sony Sound Forge is excellent for the project.
>> Sony Sound Forge 9 & 11 are what we're using at the Recorded Sound
>> Archives at Florida Atlantic University.
>> It has several settings for removing clicks and crackle as well as 4
>> settings for "Noise Reduction".
>> It's easy to splice 78 RPM tracks when a symphony or concerto stops in the
>> middle of a movement (Quick - turn the record over!!).
>>
>> I do have a question, however, strictly out of curiousity......  What are
>> the contents of the LPs?
>> I hope you don't mind my asking.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ben Roth
>> Recorded Sound Archives
>> Florida Atlantic University
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Amanda Morrow
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 9:01 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP's
>>
>> I do appreciate everyone's advice and will  take all of it into
>> consideration as this is not a project i started but am jumping into
>> already in motion. Thank you all so much for your words of wisdom and time
>> it took to write it all out.
>> On Jun 3, 2015 7:37 PM, "Tom Fine" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> > Agree about the Focusrite, except that at least in Windows 7, I
>> > haven't figured out how to make it playback in 24-bit. It will record in
>> 24-bit.
>> >
>> > -- Tom Fine
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard L. Hess" <
>> > [log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:36 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] LP's
>> >
>> >
>> >  Anything else. I am rather fond of RME units. Benchmark is excellent.
>> > I
>> >> think my "entry" level high-end converter for this work is currently
>> >> the RME Fireface UCX. I have a UFX, a BabyFace, and two Multiface II
>> units.
>> >>
>> >> I also have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 which I have not yet fully
>> >> characterized, but it seems pretty good.
>> >>
>> >> Something like a Zoom H5 as a stand-alone recorder making WAV files
>> >> can be surprisingly good and it is a good way around computer issues.
>> >> The computer should have a separate data drive for this. Laptops are
>> >> not my preferred tools for this application. You need a good tower.
>> >> If you must use a laptop, I've found that a class 10 SD card in the
>> >> card slot is a safer target than the local HDD.
>> >>
>> >> I really like Samplitude,  but it's what I grew up with.
>> >>
>> >> You do NOT want a mixer in the chain. The EQ will always be in the
>> >> circuit on a low-end mixer. If you want to use analog EQ, do it in a
>> >> loop after you've made the flat file.
>> >>
>> >> Shai's asked a lot of good questions. I actually own some pieces of
>> >> Behringer gear. Their DI box is underwhelming and their feedback
>> >> destroyer could be a lot better. They were cheeep. I bought them for
>> >> church PA on a budget. I would not use them for restoration work.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Richard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2015-06-03 4:57 PM, L. Hunter Kevil wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Gents, any recommendations for A-to-D devices beyond the $30 Behringer?
>> >>> Thanks, Hunter Kevil
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Amanda Morrow <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>  Hello Everyone,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>       I am embarking on a journey to digitize LP's for our library
>> >>>> collection. I will be using Audacity to record and optimize the
>> >>>> sound. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Audacity
>> >>>> and can give me pointers on bringing the quality of the recording
>> >>>> to its maximum potential.
>> >>>> Thanks
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Respectfully,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Amanda Morrow
>> >>>> Electronic Serials Specialist
>> >>>> John C. Pace Library
>> >>>> University of West Florida
>> >>>> 850-474-2453
>> >>>>
>> >>>> “My two favourite things in life are libraries and bicycles. They
>> >>>> both move people forward without wasting anything.”― Peter Golkin
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>  --
>> >> Richard L. Hess                   email: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Aurora, Ontario, Canada                             647 479 2800
>> >> http://www.richardhess.com/tape/contact.htm
>> >> Quality tape transfers -- even from hard-to-play tapes.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
> 

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