Sarah --
Your point is well taken. If I contributed to any negative opinion of
Joanne Fish please allow me to revise my comment.
I worked with her on a project and she was in every way well-prepared,
skilled, resourceful and professional.
Her WC Handy project has very high aspirations; I've contributed and wished
her every success. I'll leave it at that.
Dave Radlauer
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Sarah Bryan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> What perplexes me is not that list members would disagree with her
> crowd-funding methods, or even her opinion of what the appropriate range of
> potential costs are for editing. Those are perfectly valid grounds for
> debate. What I'm wondering is why those disagreements should lead to the
> conclusions that she's "being taken for a ride" or not "up to the task for
> the financial skills." It seems like a quite a leap, from disagreement to
> assumed incompetence.
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sarah:
> >
> > You make a good partial point, but I don't think any Ms. Fish's previous
> > experience was in financing a project. The artistic responsibilities and
> > skills are very different from the financial. Me personally, I don't
> think
> > the project is without merit, not in the least (to re-spin the double
> > negatives -- I think it's a fabulous topic for a documentary). However, I
> > am concerned that Ms. Fish may not fully be up to the task for the
> > financial skills required by an executive producer. The more we discuss
> > this, the more it worries me that she quotes a decent-sized "price range"
> > for the editing. She should have nailed down a firm quote with a
> > post-production group she's comfortable with before seeking funding. I
> > wouldn't want to donate money to this project until Ms. Fish produced a
> > firm line-by-line budet and timetable. What is difficult about that?
> > Professionals are required to provide firm price quotes and timetables
> all
> > the time. And by the way, if she did this, given the excellent subject
> > matter and track record in the artistic end of the business, I don't
> think
> > she'd have any trouble raising the funds she needs. If she did so and
> then
> > delivered on time and on budget, she would be a stand-out in the
> > crowd-funding world.
> >
> > -- Tom Fine
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Bryan" <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:56 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] W.C. Handy Docu
> >
> >
> > I'm taken aback by list members' seemingly automatic assumption that this
> >> producer doesn't know what she's doing. What is this based on? If you
> >> think
> >> the project is without sufficient merit, don't donate to the fundraising
> >> campaign. But if you look at Joanne Fish's professional history, you'll
> >> see
> >> that this "want-to-be-producer with good intentions" has in fact been a
> >> producer for more than thirty years, and has been nominated for seven
> >> Emmys
> >> (and won one). I don't know her personally or know anything about the
> >> project beyond what I've read online, but I suspect that someone who's
> >> been
> >> in film and TV production for more than 30 years, including for major TV
> >> networks, probably has a pretty decent idea of what editing costs.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 7:29 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Based on the few video-production projects I've worked, high-quality
> >>> documentary post-production and editing is some of the slowest going.
> >>> Even
> >>> the best modern computers need grinding time to render the HD video,
> and
> >>> even a super-efficient editor gets slowed down by his or her machines.
> >>>
> >>> Someone who contemplates participating in this crowd-funding campaign
> >>> might ask if the woman is GUARANTEED the 15-18k price by the
> >>> editor/post-production crew. Will they CAP it at 18k? If not, she may
> >>> well
> >>> need more money. A true professional hates to cap a labor-intensive
> >>> project's cost, but we all do it to get the work.
> >>>
> >>> -- Tom Fine
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Radlauer" <[log in to unmask]
> >
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:05 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] W.C. Handy Docu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Studio rate say $175/hr. For PROFESSIONAL work is 125 studio hours,
> >>>
> >>>> perhaps including the requisite post-production sound editing, sound
> >>>> design
> >>>> and narration work, also not cheap for PROFESSIONAL services.
> >>>>
> >>>> For a creative production with major release ambitions, a pittance.
> >>>>
> >>>> She'll need more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave R
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Aaron Levinson <
> >>>> [log in to unmask]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There most certainly is. Someone is taking her for a ride.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > On Sep 11, 2015, at 6:30 PM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Wow. She wants to raise the $22,000 largely to pay for editing the
> >>>>> film.
> >>>>> > That has to be a cheaper way to edit a film like that.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Best,
> >>>>> > John Haley
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Dave Radlauer <
> [log in to unmask]
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Hi --
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> I know the producer, Joanne Fish.
> >>>>> >> https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/11426512
> >>>>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9E_ZDTIjRU
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> She's a want-to-be-producer with good intentions striving to
> develop
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> >> make this doc.
> >>>>> >> https://www.facebook.com/MrHandysBlues
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mr-handy-s-blues-a-musical-documentary#/story
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Dave R
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:27 AM, David Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> First of all, I have nothing to do with this campaign; the link
> was
> >>>>> sent
> >>>>> >> to
> >>>>> >>> me courtesy of a librarian friend. It looks like a very
> interesting
> >>>>> >>> project,
> >>>>> >>> yet her campaign seems not very close to its goal.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mr-handy-s-blues-a-musical-documentary#/story
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> best,
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> David N. Lewis
> >>>>> >>> Hamilton, OH
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> --
> >>>>> >> hm# 510-848-8323
> >>>>> >> cell# 510-717-5240
> >>>>> >> www.JAZZHOTBigstep.com
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> hm# 510-848-8323
> >>>> cell# 510-717-5240
> >>>> www.JAZZHOTBigstep.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> **************************
> >> Sarah Bryan
> >> http://sarah-bryan.com
> >> http://glassdarkly-sarahbryan.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> www.oldtimeherald.org
> >> **************************
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
> --
>
> **************************
> Sarah Bryan
> http://sarah-bryan.com
> http://glassdarkly-sarahbryan.blogspot.com
>
> www.oldtimeherald.org
> **************************
>
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