Yup, those three, a community radio station and others on occasion.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Does your "strongly supoort" include funding the organizations you cite at
> the bottom of your message? Even a non-profit must pay its staff, if it
> wishes to have a staff of PROFESSIONAL journalists. Ain't nothin' for free
> in this universe.
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:39 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The haunting recorded sounds of 19th-century voices
>
>
> Pay walls shut out millions of people, who have to go to other venues, the
> Guardian, the Huffington Post, etc for their news, much of which is
> rehashed instead of original reporting. The NY Times recently trumpeted
> 1,000,000 paid subscribers. But many of those are probably corporate perks,
> and even a million is only a fraction of the US reading public, let alone
> the world. One could say pay walls are another division between the 1% and
> the rest of the people. Besides, pay walls don't cover the cost of
> publishing the WSJ, Washington Post etc. These papers all have very wealthy
> backers, otherwise they wouldn't exist in the form they are now.
>
> At least most of these pubs allow readers to view a limited amount of
> articles for free. Otherwise to view all the good journalism on these,
> McClatchy and others, it would take more subscriptions than most people
> could afford. Maybe there could be a consortium where one subscription
> would pay for a number of publications.
>
> For a strong press, I support ProPublica, Electronic Frontier Foundation,
> and Center for Public Integrity.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> This is an interesting question. I think under the digital copyright
>> whatever act, it is a violation. You can post and distribute a link to the
>> page, but you can't copy, paste and broadcast the actual text of the page.
>>
>> By the way, we see what the newspapers did to themselves by providing
>> their content online at no charge. They deserve their fate because they
>> did
>> it to themselves. However, the WSJ, which provides MUCH good journalism
>> and
>> is a beacon of the First Amendment has always had a pay wall, and has
>> succeeded online due to that pay wall. I always try to respect that pay
>> wall, although I have on occasion copied and pasted contents of WSJ
>> articles into list-mails. I ask that people take note of the current promo
>> of $1 (ONE freakin' DOLLAR) for 3 months digital subscription to the WSJ,
>> and consider what value they place on a strong free press and the First
>> Amendment.
>>
>> -- Tom Fine
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Judson" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The haunting recorded sounds of 19th-century
>> voices
>>
>>
>>
>> With my friends, I like to extract the text with a reader and just send
>> the article along. Is there any copyright issue doing this?
>>
>> Voices From the Grave
>>
>> By
>> Terry Teachout
>> Oct. 8, 2015 3:39 p.m. ET
>> In 1931, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., the oldest person to sit on the U.S.
>> Supreme Court, turned 90. By then the seemingly ageless judge was widely
>> regarded as a national treasure, so CBS marked the occasion with a
>> prime-time birthday tribute in which he spoke briefly from his home in
>> Washington.
>>
>> (photo removed)
>> Justice Holmes was the most eloquent jurist this country has yet produced,
>> and he rose to the near-final occasion (he retired from the bench 10
>> months
>> later and died in 1935) with characteristic grace, closing by quoting his
>> own elegant translation of a passage from a medieval poem in praise of
>> wine, women and song that he bent to his own austere purposes. “To live is
>> to function,” he said. “That is all there is to living. And so I end with
>> a
>> line from a Latin poet who uttered the message more than fifteen hundred
>> years ago: ‘Death plucks my ear and says, Live—I am coming.’”
>>
>> Three years ago the Harvard Law School Library, where Holmes’s papers are
>> housed, launched an online “digital suite”that allows anyone with a
>> computer to access its digitized 100,000-document collection of
>> Holmesiana.
>> I knew from having read G. Edmund White’s 2006 biography that the 1931
>> radio broadcast was recorded off the air and that the Harvard Law School
>> Library, where Holmes’s papers are housed, possessed a tape copy of the
>> recording. Why, I wondered, wasn’t it possible to use the Holmes Digital
>> Suite to listen to that 1931 aircheck?
>>
>> I got in touch with Harvard a few months ago and suggested that they post
>> the broadcast online, and now they’ve done so here.(You’ll need RealPlayer
>> to play the file; it can be downloaded here.) To read what Holmes said on
>> that long-ago evening is to be stirred to the marrow. But to actually be
>> able to hear it—to listen to the tremulous yet dignified voice of a man
>> who
>> met Abraham Lincoln and was wounded three times in the Civil War, then
>> spent the better part of three decades sitting on the U.S. Supreme
>> Court—is
>> an experience of another order altogether.
>>
>> In case you neglected to do the math, Justice Holmes was born in 1841.
>> That makes him one of a significant number of notable men and women born
>> in
>> the 19th century whose voices were recorded for posterity. So far as is
>> known, the earliest-born person to have left behind a sound recording of
>> his speaking voice was Alfred Tennyson, who was born in 1809, the same
>> year
>> as Lincoln and Felix Mendelssohn. He recorded several of his poems in 1890
>> on a machine borrowed from Thomas Edison,and one of them, “The Charge of
>> the Light Brigade,” can be easily found on YouTube. So can the voices of,
>> among others, Max Beerbohm, Sarah Bernhardt, Robert Browning, G.K.
>> Chesterton,Mahatma Gandhi, O. Henry, James Joyce, Rudyard Kipling,Vladimir
>> Lenin, H.L. Mencken, Florence Nightingale, Theodore Roosevelt, George
>> Bernard Shaw, Leo Tolstoy (speaking in English!), Booker T. Washington,
>> Woodrow Wilson and W.B. Yeats. In addition, there are a few fascinating
>> counterfeits, including alleged recordings of Walt Whitman (widely
>> regarded
>> as a fake) and Oscar Wilde (definitely phony).
>>
>> To hear these antique recordings, near-opaque though some of them are, is
>> at once mysterious and moving. The pitted wax sputters and crackles
>> furiously, and you wonder for an instant what the fuss could possibly be
>> about. But then the curtain parts and the 19th century comes to life for a
>> few precious seconds, sometimes through a glass darkly, sometimes with the
>> near-hallucinatory sharpness of a daguerreotype by Eugène Atget or Mathew
>> Brady.
>>
>> On occasion they can be unexpectedly funny, as when Browning tries to
>> recite “How They Brought the Good News From Ghent to Aix,” comes to an
>> abrupt halt, then admits, “I’m terribly sorry, but I can’t remember me own
>> verses!” Once in a while the humor is both deliberate and biting. Sir
>> Arthur Sullivan, for instance, recorded this grim prophecy when he first
>> saw Edison’s phonograph at work in 1888: “For myself, I can only say that
>> I
>> am astonished and somewhat terrified at the result of this evening’s
>> experiments: astonished at the wonderful power you have developed, and
>> terrified at the thought that so much hideous and bad music may be put on
>> record forever.” If only he could have known…
>>
>> I find it little short of miraculous that these vivid glimpses of the
>> fast-receding past have survived into the uncertain present. How wonderful
>> that the Web has put so many of them at our fingertips—and how good it is
>> to now be reminded by the electronic shade of a very great man that the
>> only possible answer to death is life, lived to the hilt.
>> Lou Judson
>> Intuitive Audio
>> 415-883-2689
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Steve Ramm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Some folks couldn't access this. This should work better
>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Here is something from WSJ.com that might interest you: The haunting
>>> recorded sounds of 19th-century voices http://on.wsj.com/1jUfyUc
>>>
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