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Subject:

Re: Process suggestions for digitizing a very large quantity of 78s.

From:

Shai Drori <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:41:19 +0200

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You can check this video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ3XIAD36sc>for a
good laugh.
Shai

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I was hoping someone would say what Shai said! Having digitized a bunch of
> old grooved disks for both clients and my own enjoyment, I can say that
> each record needs to be carefully cleaned, playback parameters need to be
> fine-tuned by ear, and if restoration software is used, it must be used
> with expert ears involved so it doesn't ruin more than it fixes (hint --
> there's more "room tone" on old 78's than you might think, given their
> frequency-range limits). If you want a good example, compare the latest
> Robert Johnson remasters to the previous million-selling remasters from the
> early 90s. There's no comparison, in my opinion! In the new remasters, you
> can actually hear WHY Johnson was facing the corner of the room, how he was
> using the room to change the sound his guitar made into the microphone. You
> can also hear the distance from the mic to the room corner. The only thing
> that was clearly audible in previous issues of RJ material was the notes
> being played and the voice singing, almost none of what has actually
> happening around that was audible. The same is definitely true of some
> orchestral recordings made in lively acoustic spaces.
>
> Bottom line, if you're talking about digitizing a collection of
> professionally recorded, commercially-released 78RPM records (or, for that
> matter, well-recorded broadcast transcriptions, which are most certainly
> professional-grade audio), then you can't "mass ingest" like you can some
> other audio. Each disk must be carefully cleaned, the correct playback
> parameters must be chosen (stylus size and shape, EQ curve, whatever other
> analog signal processing is to be in the chain, correct playback speed in
> accord with musical pitch, etc). And each transfer must be processed with
> skill and taste.  That is the only method to get great-sounding results
> that are worthy of an archival effort and budget. And this is most
> certainly the case for commercial reissues, although it's followed all too
> infrequently!
>
> -- Tom Fine
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shai Drori" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Process suggestions for digitizing a very large
> quantity of 78s.
>
>
> Dear Joel
>> Disclaimer first: I have a studio that deal with digitizing analog media
>> to
>> digital files, but this is not a plug for my services (although you are
>> more than welcome to contact me off list).
>> Of all the media types out there, the one that can not be masses digitized
>> are the early records. The setup time for each record is different and
>> takes much longer than the actual playing time. This is one station where
>> there is one operator per playing device, unlike cassettes or reel to
>> reels
>> where I can have one operator controlling several playing devices. If you
>> have that many records to digitize you will need a large staff and many
>> stations. From my experience you do not need to wash all records. Usually,
>> most records are actually quite clean and need just a good dusting.
>> Gotta go but will be glad to answer follow up questions.
>> Cheers
>> Shai
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Joel Bresler <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends:
>>>
>>> Apologies for cross-posting...I'd be interested in hearing from list
>>> members
>>> who have worked on teams digitizing very large numbers of 78 rpm
>>> recordings
>>> (tens of thousands) or who have read good articles and reports on teams
>>> undertaking same. I am particularly keen to learn about techniques and
>>> process flows that "work" for large-scale production that would be
>>> impractical logistically or economically for smaller quantities.
>>>
>>> I would also value opinions on whether it is important to wash all the
>>> disks
>>> first, or a process for determining which have to be washed for best
>>> results.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>>
>>> Joel Bresler
>>> 250 E. Emerson Road
>>> Lexington, MA 02420
>>> United States
>>>
>>> 1-781-862-4104 (Telephone & FAX)
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/joelbresler
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> IN CASE OF VERIZON EMAIL PROBLEMS, PLEASE USE MY BACK-UP EMAIL:
>>> joelbresler-at-gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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