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Re: AW: [ARSCLIST] AW: [ARSCLIST] What Your Music Format Says About You

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:18:45 -0500

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This is a really good point, Frank. I didn't mean a person shouldn't obtain, enjoy and dub cassettes 
with material unavailable on other media. Your Vietnamese cassette is a good example. Also the 
African pop music chronicled on this blog:
http://www.awesometapes.com/
Some of this material is not available on other media, as I understand it.

Plus there are "board tapes" made by bands, and other live recordings (legal and not).

So, to be clear, what I was saying I think is a fool's errand is making a NEW cassette recording, 
for a girl or anyone else. It's silly, because there are better ways to do the same thing with 
modern technology, but it's harmless so c'est la vie.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Franz Kunst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] AW: [ARSCLIST] AW: [ARSCLIST] What Your Music Format Says About You


The tone of this discussion is (as usual I'm afraid) skewed towards an
engineer/audiophile point of view, and from people who lived most of their
lives with physical formats. Even the original article managed to ignore
the fact that for collectors and other more assertive music lovers, there
simply isn't a choice of media for some recordings. Nobody is taken to task
for collecting acoustic 78s because they're not on CD or iTunes, but, as
was Francesco's point, there are thousands of cassettes out there that are
only available on that (admittedly flawed) medium. Just last month I picked
up a great 1970s Vietnamese tape for 5 cents in Chinatown while shopping
for a tea kettle. I'd gladly purchase a non-warbly reissue, if it were to
exist.
Now as for producing new recordings, I can hardly speak for the youth but
it's my impression that both CDs and CD-Rs are about as clunky and unsexy
to them as cassettes and 8-tracks are to some of us. But we're still only
talking about a minute percentage of today's music consumption.

Franz

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM, David Breneman <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Von: "Francesco Martinelli" &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
> > On 11/11/2015 12:20, Tom Fine wrote:
>
> >> Very few girls here have cassette players! ;)
> >> I still don't see why not do a Mix CDR. Many more CD players still out
> >> there, easier to compile, much easier to duplicate.
>
> > And, I repeat, for that very reason so much less relevant.
>
> I guess I don't understand your use of the term "relevant".  If what
> you're after is novelty value, I'm sure your sweetheart would really
> appreciate a cylinder record! :-)
>
> I recently bought a barn-find Edison Triumph Model B (circa 1906)
> along with a recorder and recording horn.  It's going to take some
> work getting it back to the condition to record with it again (I've had an
> Edison Standard Model B for decades, but the single-spring motor
> isn't strong enough for recording) but it will be a lot of fun when I
> can finally make records with it.  And yes, you can still buy new blanks.
> But I'd never put it forth as a viable alternative to my Ampex ATR-800
> when it comes to capturing high-fidelity sound.
>
> And I'm with Tom in that a CDR is simply easier to make, even if you
> have to digitize the selections first.  I'm all for esoteric formats.  I
> still take a lot of pictures with my Stereo Realist on slide film.  But
> I've never been able to get past my impression that the Compact
> Cassette is first and foremost a convenience and cost driven
> substitute for the couple-hundred-dollar 7" reel tape decks that
> were so popular in the 50s, 60s and early 70s.  When I finally bought
> my first cassette deck, a Sankyo, around 1978 (the year after I graduated
> from high school), for about $180, it sounded *almost* as good as the
> Realistic TR-88 7" deck I bought from Radio Shack (in the 6th grade)
> for $129.
>
> I finally took the Realistic to the dump because the heads were shot,
> as were the bearings in the motor.  I still have the Sankyo, even though
> it needs new belts. Maybe in the end it is an emotional thing.  That deck
> provided music for a lot of parties where I wouldn't let friends touch my
> turntable because we were all too drunk and/or stoned.
>
>
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