Tom,
And just what correlations exist to compare such images? Even if you had such correlations, how many images would be required & at what cost? You welcome to continue to take shots at products you’re only willing to try if someone gives them to you. I stopped doing that nearly 20 years ago.
Archives, major collections & 1,000s of individuals have all been fooled. Somehow I’d bet you’d be the 1st person with a decent mid-fi system or better that could not hear the merits of this level of cleaning. I’ll make no more remarks on this thread.
Regards,
Duane Goldman
H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA
v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask]
> On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Duane, can you back that up with some science? Scanning microscope photos of the grooves? With all due respect, "repeatedly demonstrated by users" isn't scientific proof. I just don't believe that you can "manually" remove the fluid and grime as well as vacuuming. That said, I do not have a scanning microscope to prove my point.
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> -- Tom Fine
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "H D Goldman" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Cleaning stylus
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> Tom,
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> It has been repeatedly demonstrated by users over the past 25 years, that with adequately designed applicators, carefully formulated cleaning solutions, & useful instructions that there is not difference in the playback of a properly cleaning phonograph record regardless of whether manual & vacuum-assisted fluid removal was employed.
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> Regards,
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> Duane Goldman
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> H D Goldman Lagniappe Chemicals Ltd.
> PO Box 37066 St. Louis, MO 63141 USA
> v/f 314 205 1388 [log in to unmask]
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>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> By the way, I am NOT a fan of the Discwasher or similar "record cleaning brushes." They just don't clean out the grooves, in my experience. Only a wet cleaner with vacuum finish like a VPI or similar really cleans out the grooves. There is now an ultrasonic wet cleaning machine that the audiophile mags have raved about. I'd want to see some science (ie scanning microscope photos) to prove that it really cleans out a groove better than a VPI. The exception might be caked on grime, it's very possible that ultrasonic would blast out the grime whereas a brush and vacuum wouldn't. But this is not something typically found in cleaning LPs, I say that having cleaned thousands of LPs over the years.
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>> -- Tom Fine
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