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Re: The new normal - "hits" are hard to come by, the vinyl niche continues to thrive

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Frank Strauss <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:32:21 -0500

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Diamond Disks!

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Chris Bishop <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Most people don't even want downloads let alone CDs. So in that sense vinyl
> is as doomed as every other physical medium.
>
> But I disagree that vinyl is a dead medium at this time. The DJ scene is
> stronger than ever in every genre.
>
> Records produced 50 or 60 years ago can be pulled off the shelf, cleaned
> and played with almost no deterioration from age. What medium is more
> stable in average storage conditions?
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:28 AM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > It's the old question--do you want fame or money?  Many "artists" of
> today
> > apparently keep their day jobs and go for fame by giving it away,
> thinking
> > fortune will follow.  Seems like it seldom does, and this has very little
> > to do with basic talent.  It's a recipe for a lousy pop music world,
> which
> > to my ancient ears is just what is happening.  Meanwhile any third-rate
> pop
> > artist from the past can sell out a hall today.   Thank goodness they are
> > there.
> >
> > As for vinyl, it's a blip and a fad.  If it gets people listening who
> > otherwise wouldn't be, then fine, I like it, but we who ought to know
> > better mustn't kid ourselves.  As a format, vinyl is a dead one, and it
> > deserves to be.  Of course I'm not tossing out my record collection, but
> as
> > a person who restores old records in modern formats, I have no nostalgic,
> > romantic illusions about vinyl's supposed virtues.  If people are happy
> > listening to it, then be happy and go for it. But as "audio people" let's
> > not go fooling ourselves.
> >
> > Best,
> > John Haley
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting stats from Nielsen:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10816404/2015-album-sales-trends-vinyl-catalog-streaming
> > >
> > > Soundscan does not pick up the whole market, but the trends seem
> > credible.
> > > Interesting that Adele fans are also vinyl fans in such a pronounced
> > way. I
> > > wonder if the back-catalog trend was just a blip because so much of it
> is
> > > now in print either as downloads or physical media, just about every
> > > "golden age" audiophile favorite is not out in new-remaster vinyl, and
> > what
> > > CDs are left in the pipeline are heavily discounted. But, that said,
> the
> > > market to create great new music is not really there -- artists make
> more
> > > just touring and releasing a song here and there via download or video
> > > streams. So why get in a studio and create great art? There was also an
> > > interesting interview in the latest issue of TapeOp magazine with the
> > > Minneapolis hip-hop collective Doomtree. One thing they said that stuck
> > in
> > > my mind is that there is a penalty today for taking the time to write
> > > great, meaningful lyrics. The music-buying public wants catchy phrases
> > and
> > > well-worn stereotype statements set to music, they want simple ditties,
> > and
> > > simple sells.
> > >
> > > This report looks at unit sales for the first half of 2015:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/us-album-sales-fall-4-in-first-half-of-2015-as-cd-rules-market-just/
> > > The problem that isn't documented in unit sales is that copyright
> owners,
> > > artists and everyone else with a stake in making quality music get
> > pennies
> > > on the dollar from these streaming services, and that's the main growth
> > > area as far as consumer uptake (yes, the vinyl niche is thriving, but
> > it's
> > > a tiny niche compared to overall music sales, and does not produce
> enough
> > > revenue to float any artist or major copyright owner). I think it was
> > very
> > > foolish for the record companies to surrender to streamers on the
> cheap.
> > > They should be charging royalties like radio, plus a download fee, and
> > the
> > > streamers should be forced into a model where everyone who streams
> pays a
> > > monthly fee. Most of the streaming is freebie streaming, and that just
> > > doesn't produce enough revenue. If I were an artists, I'd say you get
> > > nothing for free streaming, and if I'm a hit-making artist I'd say you
> > get
> > > nothing without paying me regular download fees.
> > >
> > > -- Tom Fine
> > >
> >
>



-- 
Frank B Strauss, DMD

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