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Re: [ARSCLIST] AW: [ARSCLIST] AN OPEN LETTER TO ARSC MEMBERSHIP

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Tom Fine <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:18:33 -0400

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I don't understand this whole concept. America was designed and built for individualism. The freer 
we are (which is our responsibility to assure, as made clear by the Founding Fathers), the more 
"other" we all are from each other, which is the whole point. Beyond that, it's human nature for 
"similar others" to tribe up together. To make a workable democratic republic (or a workable ARSC, 
or a workable workplace), cooperation rather than hatred between "tribes" needs to be encouraged, 
but human nature is human nature and people are judgemental. I think it's foolish to think anyone is 
going to be totally accepted and embraced by everyone else, this being more so the wider the circle. 
However, acceptance and embracing are one thing and denying someone a guaranteed right because they 
are "other" is separate matter. Net-net, it's better to live and let live, but don't expect that to 
be the default with human nature being what it is.

-- Tom Fine

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lou Judson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIB] [ARSCLIST] AW: [ARSCLIST] AN OPEN LETTER TO ARSC MEMBERSHIP


(David, your email is set for reply to you and not the list!)

Othering as a concept and action was first brought to my attention involving the Japanese in the 
1940s. Many posrters and such were made showing the evil japs to foster hatred of “the enemy” - this 
has ben going on for millennia.

The term may be fairly newish but the concept and actions have been with us a long long time.

Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Inventions did a song called “We are the Other People” whose refrain 
included the line “You’re the other people too!” which pretty much sums up the difference between us 
and them - we are both other people:

Do it again!
Do it again!

We are the other people
We are the other people
You're the other people too
Found a way to get to you...
Do you think that I'm crazy?
Out of my mind?
Do you think that I creep in the night
And sleep in a phone booth?
Lemme take a minute & tell you my plan
Lemme take a minute & tell who I am
If it doesn't show
Think you better know
I'm another person
Do you think that my pants are too tight
Do you think that I'm creepy?
Lemme take a minute & tell you my plan
Lemme take a minute & tell who I am
If it doesn't show
Think you better know
I'm another person (the verse that really
Goes here has been censored out &
Recorded backwards in a special section
At the end of side one...)
We are the other people
We are the other people
You're the other people too
Found a way to get to you
We are the other people
We are the other people
You're the other people too
Found a way to get to you
Do you think that I love you...
Stupid & blind?
Do you think that I dream through the
Night
Of holding you near me?

Lemme take a minute & tell you my plan
Lemme take a minute & tell who I am
If it doesn't show
Think you better know
I’m another person



Lou Judson

Intuitive Audio

415-883-2689

On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:23 PM, David Breneman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Von: "Richard L. Hess" <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> As to the term "othering" it refers to the process of defining some
>> group as "the other." As in NOT "us." This is often a precursor to
>> attempting to diminish "the other" since they are not like "us" and
>> therefore inferior. I'll leave it to your imagination and knowledge of
>> history to envision what happens when "the other" becomes the scapegoat
>> for general societal ills.
>
> The English language has a perfectly good word to describe this
> behavior: Bigotry.  It's not necessary to make up new, rather
> ambiguous words to describe it.  I weep for my native tongue.
>
> If my objection to "other" makes me an other to the others
> here, I embrace my otherness and wear it as another badge
> of honor.  :-)  Long live the others.
>

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