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Re: housing and storing broken glass discs

From:

Carla Arton <[log in to unmask]>

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ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 26 Apr 2016 22:51:09 -0400

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The Library of Congress Recorded Sound Section (where I previously worked)
has a nice design as well that was specially commissioned under Larry
Miller's expert guidance. It is similar to the Hoover and IU designs
previously mentioned on the thread. There are two sizes for 12" or less (6
to a box) and over 12" (8 to a box) and a way to keep all pieces and flakes
together if the box tilts slightly. I recommend storing any cracked disc
flat, if you have the space (glass more so than shellac), to prevent
further damage. Cracked, broken and/or flaked all went into the same types
of boxes.

https://goo.gl/photos/sVmQQxo3td6rk22P6

I also addressed flat housing briefly in the ARSC Guide to Audio
Preservation on pgs 63-64.
http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub164

Flat archival boxes used for paper materials could work in a pinch.

Best,
Carla Arton
Film Digitization Specialist
IU Library Moving Image Archive
[log in to unmask]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Corey Bailey <[log in to unmask]>
 wrote:

> I would like to suggest that part of the "larger discussion" be the
> migration (or digitization) of those delaminating discs. The discussion
> should include best practice for stabilizating those discs before migration.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Corey
> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
> www.baileyzone.net
>
> On 4/26/2016 5:45 AM, Patrick J Midtlyng wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After asking this question, Brandon and Jim sent me the specs and contact
>> information for their vendor. I contacted them and started a conversation
>> about not only ordering the 16" size but also how we could modify it for
>> smaller discs (one of the collections we are surveying now has a lot of
>> delaminating 12" discs). I think this is a great time to start a larger
>> conversation about archival products to fit this need. It'll help us all in
>> the long run - having choices, lowering costs and standardizing
>> preservation treatments.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> Patrick J Midtlyng | Sound Archivist
>> Belfer Audio Archive, Special Collections Research Center
>> Syracuse University Libraries
>> 222 Waverly Avenue
>> Syracuse, New York 13244
>> t 315.443.2070  f 315.443.2671  e [log in to unmask]  w belfer.syr.edu
>> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
>> syr.edu
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List [mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim Sam
>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:56 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: housing and storing broken glass discs
>>
>> Thanks, Nathan.
>>
>> As a quick follow-up, my colleague, Brandon Burke, who was one of the
>> leads on designing that housing, presented about it at the 2012 ARSC
>> conference (and 2014 AIC). It may be worth folks' time to pull up the
>> recording of that session.
>>
>>
>> http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2012/pdf/2012PreliminarySchedulerev.pdf
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Nathan Coy<[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> It might be worth checking out some of the information here including
>>> a photo of a housing:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.hoover.org/news/hoover-archivists-innovate-preservation-and
>>> -access-rare-wwii-recordings
>>>
>>> The housings I have worked with preservation on in the past are
>>> similar in many ways but they have been designed to support each
>>> broken piece so that if the housing is jostled (as could happen at
>>> some point as an accident) the individual pieces will not slide into
>>> and damage each other. It seems people generally store them flat,
>>> especially since glass discs are less susceptible to warping than many
>>> other discs. Often it seems there will be a removable component that
>>> supports the entirety of the glass disc, this can be seen in the photo
>>> of Jim. It may be worth considering that different breaks may suggest
>>> variations in the solutions chosen for housing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Richardson, Jonathan Carrithers<
>>> [log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> The E. Lingle Craig preservation lab here at Indiana University
>>>> kindly made for us some very nice boxes for our delaminating 16"
>>>> transcription discs.
>>>>
>>>> Blog post here:
>>>>
>>>> https://blogs.libraries.indiana.edu/craiglab/2016/03/09/floating-dis
>>>> ks/
>>>>
>>>> --Jonathan--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan Richardson
>>>> Audio Visual Specialist
>>>> Media Digitization and Preservation Initiative Indiana University
>>>> 812-320-8485
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> https://mdpi.iu.edu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List [mailto:
>>>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Walker, Lauren E
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:32 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: housing and storing broken glass discs
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering how other institutions are storing broken or cracked glass
>>>> transcription discs, a.k.a instantaneous discs, lacquer discs, etc.
>>>> What kinds of housings are other archives using for these fragile and
>>>> fragmented objects?
>>>> Is the same housing used for broken or cracked shellacs?
>>>> Are these stored flat?
>>>>
>>>> Any contribution towards a discussion of best practice with these discs
>>>>
>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>
>>>> appreciated.
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Lauren
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lauren Walker
>>>> NEH Sound Recordings Survey, Library Assistant II Harry Ransom Center
>>>> The
>>>> University of Texas at Austin P.O. Box 7219 Austin, Texas 78713-7219
>>>> 512-471-3002 office
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> www.hrc.utexas.edu<http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Patrick J Midtlyng <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> After asking this question, Brandon and Jim sent me the specs and contact
> information for their vendor. I contacted them and started a conversation
> about not only ordering the 16" size but also how we could modify it for
> smaller discs (one of the collections we are surveying now has a lot of
> delaminating 12" discs). I think this is a great time to start a larger
> conversation about archival products to fit this need. It'll help us all in
> the long run - having choices, lowering costs and standardizing
> preservation treatments.
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick J Midtlyng | Sound Archivist
> Belfer Audio Archive, Special Collections Research Center
> Syracuse University Libraries
> 222 Waverly Avenue
> Syracuse, New York 13244
> t 315.443.2070  f 315.443.2671  e [log in to unmask]  w belfer.syr.edu
> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
> syr.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim Sam
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: housing and storing broken glass discs
>
> Thanks, Nathan.
>
> As a quick follow-up, my colleague, Brandon Burke, who was one of the
> leads on designing that housing, presented about it at the 2012 ARSC
> conference (and 2014 AIC). It may be worth folks' time to pull up the
> recording of that session.
>
>
> http://www.arsc-audio.org/conference/2012/pdf/2012PreliminarySchedulerev.pdf
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Nathan Coy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > It might be worth checking out some of the information here including
> > a photo of a housing:
> >
> >
> > http://www.hoover.org/news/hoover-archivists-innovate-preservation-and
> > -access-rare-wwii-recordings
> >
> > The housings I have worked with preservation on in the past are
> > similar in many ways but they have been designed to support each
> > broken piece so that if the housing is jostled (as could happen at
> > some point as an accident) the individual pieces will not slide into
> > and damage each other. It seems people generally store them flat,
> > especially since glass discs are less susceptible to warping than many
> > other discs. Often it seems there will be a removable component that
> > supports the entirety of the glass disc, this can be seen in the photo
> > of Jim. It may be worth considering that different breaks may suggest
> variations in the solutions chosen for housing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Richardson, Jonathan Carrithers <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > The E. Lingle Craig preservation lab here at Indiana University
> > > kindly made for us some very nice boxes for our delaminating 16"
> > > transcription discs.
> > >
> > > Blog post here:
> > >
> > > https://blogs.libraries.indiana.edu/craiglab/2016/03/09/floating-dis
> > > ks/
> > >
> > > --Jonathan--
> > >
> > >
> > > Jonathan Richardson
> > > Audio Visual Specialist
> > > Media Digitization and Preservation Initiative Indiana University
> > > 812-320-8485
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > https://mdpi.iu.edu/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List [mailto:
> > > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Walker, Lauren E
> > > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:32 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: housing and storing broken glass discs
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm wondering how other institutions are storing broken or cracked
> glass
> > > transcription discs, a.k.a instantaneous discs, lacquer discs, etc.
> > > What kinds of housings are other archives using for these fragile and
> > > fragmented objects?
> > > Is the same housing used for broken or cracked shellacs?
> > > Are these stored flat?
> > >
> > > Any contribution towards a discussion of best practice with these discs
> > is
> > > appreciated.
> > > Thank you,
> > > Lauren
> > >
> > >
> > > Lauren Walker
> > > NEH Sound Recordings Survey, Library Assistant II Harry Ransom Center
> The
> > > University of Texas at Austin P.O. Box 7219 Austin, Texas 78713-7219
> > > 512-471-3002 office
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > www.hrc.utexas.edu<http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/>
> > >
> >
>

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