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Re: was Zappa, now email conundrum

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"Karl E. Fitzke" <[log in to unmask]>

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ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:37:14 +0000

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Thanks for the confirmation.  I seem to only receive an email telling me my message went out to everyone on the list, but not see what I sent in my client InBox from the list.  I only see my own clients record in my Sent folder.

It's probably some cockpit error on my part.  Sorry to make it everyone's problem here, but perhaps someone has a clue or is experienced something similar and we'll figure it out together.  Thanks.  I'm going to take this off the list from this point forward though, to no longer be a bother to the whole group.  Have a great weekend, all!

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From: ARSC Library and Archives Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:18:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIB] zappa Them or Us and clarification to  email I sent yesterday

Karl, your posts definitely show up!
see below:
On Apr 29, 2016, at 6:29 AM, Karl E. Fitzke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 1.
> Thanks for prompting a "Them or Us" book title correction, Lou.  "Us and Them"?  I must have had a momentary short between the Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa sections of my brain - I’ve always been aware of the correct book title.

I googled it, did not know the correction until that showed up, in Italian!
>
> 2.
> Most importantly, I want to clarify something I said yesterday...."Sounds like Frank was getting a little fed up with behavior that he found oppressive, despite being able to get haircut.  And yet he could seem at times to marginalize people in songs based on their sexuality, something we can’t change about ourselves."

But today we can change our sexiality - or at least our gender… But I would not say he had the power to marginalize them/us/anyone - just to mock and be sarcastic. That is part of the artists’ job! Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy did the same thing, couched in hugely popular humor. Same with the Simpsons, etc. etc. etc.
>
>
> Add to that, “Anyway, we shouldn't even have to entertain thoughts of changing our sexuality (as if we even would if we could) or changing our hairstyle to have access to the same rights and responsibilities that everyone else has."

True indeed. We SHOULD be able to change things according to our inner beings, and not be penalized for that, which speaks to the NC laws.

In the 60s and 70s I grew my hair long, but it just wasn’t comfortable, even though it represented my cultural ideas and mindset. So I kept it short. But still I was a California Hippie…

>
> 3.
> Lou, grab a copy of “Lumpy Money” from zappa.com if you don't have one already.

<http://www.amazon.com/Lumpy-Money-Project-Object/dp/B003RF84TO> I couldn’t find it on the zappa.com site.
I don’t have it, but I doubt I will be investing $140 in it for just a listen or two. Beatles remasters, yes, Zappa nostalgia, not so much. But thanks!

> 4.
> I don't see any of my own posts to this list.   Weird, but I ‘ll try to figure that out.

See my first line. Maybe check your junk mail?

Thanks!

<L>
>
>
> -Karl

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