Yes, I like the idea, very much.
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From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
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Subject: Re: Excessive simplification / was: FRBR-LRM: "agent" as an entity
A couple of days ago, I posted this on RDA-L:
> I wonder whether "identity" could be used as an alternative to
> "agent"? Of course I'm not a native speaker, but I think that this
> would be broad enough to cover real and fictitious entities as well as
> human and non-human ones.
>
> The subordinate entities might then perhaps be called "individual
> identity" and "collective identity".
Admittedly, "Identity" has many meanings and is used in various contexts, as can be seen in Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity
But the meaning intended in the context of FRBR-LRM could be clarified by the definition.
Anybody like this idea?
Heidrun
On 07.04.2016 Stephen McDonald wrote:
> Persona does seem like a good fit, but the translation issue is a good reason to avoid it.
>
> Out of curiosity, I put Agent into Google Translate. The best options
> from the results were Actor and Auctor (Author). Both of those are
> even more of a problem than Agent. :)
>
> I've casually tried a few other words and haven't come up with anything. Everything I come up with involves an action, which is what Kevin and Ted want to avoid. I'm not sure there is a good label that fits the criteria.
>
> Steve McDonald
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Program for Cooperative Cataloging
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Hostage
>> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 2:17 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [PCCLIST] Excessive simplification / was: FRBR-LRM:
>> "agent" as an entity
>>
>> Authors of IFLA documents try to be conscious of translation issues,
>> and the question of using "persona" has come up in the past.
>> "Persona" is a word in Spanish and Italian meaning person, and
>> apparently it can also mean persona in Spanish, but especially for
>> non-native speakers reading the English document, it could be confusing.
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