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Re: New turntable + 20 inch Pathe records

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Henri Chamoux <[log in to unmask]>

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About Dave's second link :

it is entitled on Youtube "A 1905 Pathé 20 inch record 120rpm on a 
Timestep RA turntable" and features loud and clear a very nice 
"Marseillaise".

I wish first to add a few precisions on the historical ground as the 
title is somewhat mistaking. It is true Pathé launched their vertical 
cut disc during the winter 1905-1906. At that time Pathé discs were 9 
inch and 1/2. Later Pathé produced 11 1/2 inches and many other sizes.

As regards the very odd 20 inch (=50cm), it was first introduced to 
Pathé Board of directory in November 1908 only and was marketed from 
1909 to 1913 or so. As shown on Dave's video these monsters rotated at 
120 rpm. They did under the commercial name "Pathé Concert". But latter 
series ("Pathé Théâtre", 1912-1913), same huge size, played at 60 rpm 
only, for up to 7 minute 30 seconds audition per side.

To hear a nice example of a 60 rpm"Pathé Théâtre" here : 
http://www.phonobase.org/simple_search.php?Tout=la bayadere

To discover and hear more 20 inch "Pathé Concert" and "Pathé Théâtre" 
there :
http://www.phonobase.org/advanced_search.php?GETFormat=50+cm&langue=en

A huge bunch of Vitaphone discs can be heard too on the same site.

As a contribution to the main topic, I transfer discs on home brewed 
turntables including modified Garrard 401's, with transplanted motors 
and central spindles set for off-centered discs, external tonearms, 
symetrized cartridges and preamps, all things you can do if you are on 
the handyman side.

If you are not, I wish to say you will go easier and safer at Dave's ! I 
also must point out I am not a share holder here...

With thanks to him and regards to all,

Henri

-- 
Henri CHAMOUX
The many adventures of the Archeophone phonograph :http://www.archeophone.org/windex.php
École normale supérieure
LARHRA - UMR 5190
Pôle histoire numérique

Tel : 33 6 64 80 00 81
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Le 06/06/2016 09:22, Dave Cawley a écrit :
> Wow !  No imbedded hyperlinks allowed ?
>
> To see a 16" record placing click herehttps://youtu.be/rq7EHeGBJGU  
>
> To see a 20" record playing click herehttps://youtu.be/qsc_PAK39oo  
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Cawley
> To: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] New turntable
>
>
> From:  Dave Cawley
> Timestep Dartmouth UK
> [log in to unmask]
> Web sitewww.78-rpm.com  
> Tel:   +44 (0) 1803 833366
> Fax:  +44 (0) 1803 839498
>
>
> Especially bad for vertical cut transcriptions if unsupported. -Mickey
>
> It's an overhang of 2" on either side, if you put a record weight on, there is no audible difference in the supported or non-supported area (IMHO).
> I had the SL-1200 conversion at the ARSC Conference and everyone was happy with it.
>
> To see a 16" record placing click here
>
> To see a 20" record playing click here
>
> The above were recorded on an iPhone using the built in microphone.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
>

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