Thanks, However............... for the 1812, I'm a fan of the Dorati with real canons and carillon bells.
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And from out in left field we have Nicolai Golovanov, recorded c.1948 in not very good sound, but still. . .
For a real taste of the man's mastery, however, consider his 1812 Overture.
It will never be the same for you afterwards. Think: 1812 was the year that Napoleon stormed the gates and his battle song is the Marseillaise. Is that something you want to hear when you're trapped inside? No! So instead of rendering it prettily, as in all other performances, Golovanov makes the tune properly threatening. You can watch the hair on your arms stand up!
But: At one point he interpolates the Internationale, in a bow to his bosses. Oh well.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:46 PM, James Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'm listening to the Odd Gruner-Hegge on Youtube right now.
> I hope I like his interpretation.
> Ben Roth
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> Tchaikovsky like Koussevitzky?
> That might be Odd Gruner-Hegge, with Marche Slave as a filler.
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> > On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Dave Burnham <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Excellent recommendations, particularly the Mravinsky. When I was a
> > kid,
> I was impressed by the 5th and 6th on Camden LPs, perhaps performed by
> the Oslo Phil. I'm going to dig through my basement and listen to them
> again to see if they still impress me; it's easily 50 years since I last heard them.
> > I have always heard a cymbal crash in the last movement, in my mind,
> > of
> course, it's not really there, but imagine my surprise when recently I
> was listening to the Toronto Symphony recording under Ernest MacMillan
> and there was a cymbal crash, three beats earlier than where I
> imagined it. I think my spot is marginally better, but still.....!
> > db
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> On Jun 7, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Dennis Rooney
> >> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Dear Ben,
> >> The Tchaikovsky Fifth rarely fails to make a strong impression at
> >> first hearing, so your preference for Koussevitzky's BSO RCA Victor
> >> recording isn't surprising, although I must add that that recording
> >> usually does not lead any list of best recorded versions, nor for
> >> that matter does the Bernstein. You might investigate those of Igor
> >> Markevich, Yevgeny Mravinsky, Pierre Monteux, Artur Rodzinski,
> >> Valery Gergiev, and, if you accept their mannerisms, Leopold
> >> Stokowski and
> Willem Mengelberg.
> >> Ciao,
> >> DDR
> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:12 PM, James Roth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>> Hello everybody.
> >>> The first time I ever heard the 5th of Tchaikovsky was on a
> >>> recording of Koussevitzky and the BSO - a 45 RPM box set.
> >>> That rendition has stuck with me (it's my favorite) and I've yet
> >>> to hear anyone - even Bernstein - conduct with S.K.'s rubatos,
> creshendo's, etc.
> >>> I wish there were. While S.K.'s rendition is my favorite by far,
> >>> it's lacking in the clarity of later technology.
> >>> The live ones are a little clearer than the 1946 studio
> >>> recordings, but still...................
> >>> If I had the funds, I'd hire the BSO to study his recording and
> >>> then play it back exactly that way.
> >>> Is that silly?
> >>> Ben Roth
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