Another issue is that the available CD transfer may not be as good as the
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> for some LP releases, in addition to sound, the packaging is superior to
> CD reissue - large legible notes, cover art, texts/translations Thomas.
> second time trying to post this - a lot of you STILL have not corrected
> the reply address problem, so rather
> than being posted to the ARSCLIST, the response goes to the sender of the
> message replied to.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Stamler
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:13 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Please give me reasons to keep Classical vinyl!!!!!
> I guess the first real question is: who has the collection, and what's it
> used for?
> The second is: are there any unique items in the collection, not
> obtainable on CD?
> On 8/26/2016 3:32 PM, Barton, Matthew wrote:
> > What are the circumstances here? The argument about CDs versus vinyl may
> be beside the point, as the best argument for keeping the vinyl might be a
> financial one. For example, if a music school had a large classical vinyl
> collection and didn't mind that it took up a lot space and was willing to
> maintain a good listening station or two, then it would still be a valuable
> resource for students. The cost of buying thousands of CDs to replace the
> vinyl would be prohibitive and unnecessary, as the LPs are already
> available and are adequate for study purposes, whatever one thinks of
> analog vs. digital.
> > Matthew Barton
> > Library of Congress
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clark Johnsen
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:46 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Please give me reasons to keep Classical
> > To David Burnham:
> > A nay and a yay:
> > * This "ambience" is nothing more than the sound of stylus against
> > groove walls - it has nothing to do with the original recording. I
> > have no doubt that these enthusiasts would prefer the sound of an LP
> > to the sound of the master tape from which it was made.*
> > Beg to differ with both parts. The first is a mere assertion, the second
> is simply untrue.
> > * Many if not most 78s from the pre-tape era are also direct to disc
> > recordings so if you have a good copy and good equipment to play it
> > on, a
> > 78 will give better reproduction than any subsequent mastering
> > efforts.*
> > Quite right!
> > Clark
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, DAVID BURNHAM <[log in to unmask]>
> >> I think the question comes down to do you want reasons to keep
> >> CLASSICAL vinyl, as opposed to other genres on vinyl or reasons to
> >> keep classical VINYL as opposed to CDs or whatever. As all
> >> collectors know, there are those who worship vinyl as a medium and
> >> feel that it is so superior to other media, and those who think those
> >> collectors should belong to the flat earth society of audio. Vinyl
> >> DOES have its advantages, mainly that the highest frequency harmonic
> >> content is more accurately reproduced than on CDs; this is because
> >> the highest frequency harmonic content is so low in level compared to
> >> the main body of the audio signal and therefore there are very few
> >> bits available to accurately reproduce it. It is in this area that
> SACDs are so superior. Many vinyl enthusiasts love the "ambience"
> >> around the music that is missing on CDs. This "ambience" is nothing
> >> more than the sound of stylus against groove walls - it has nothing
> >> to do with the original recording. I have no doubt that these
> >> enthusiasts would prefer the sound of an LP to the sound of the
> >> master tape from which it was made.
> >> As opposed to many 78s, the main characteristic of LPs that lowers
> >> their status as a medium is that, aside from the few direct to disc
> >> recordings that have come out, they are all two or more generations
> >> removed from the master recording and it is that master that, as long
> >> as it's preserved, will keep the recordings alive. Many if not most
> >> 78s from the pre-tape era are also direct to disc recordings so if
> >> you have a good copy and good equipment to play it on, a 78 will give
> >> better reproduction than any subsequent mastering efforts.
> >> db
> >> On Friday, August 26, 2016 11:22 AM, Benjamin Roth <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >> Greetings everyone.
> >> I need some help in convincing someone to keep a collection of
> >> classical vinyl.
> >> ASAP!!! Please!
> >> Ben Roth
> >> '
Frank B Strauss, DMD