Once it's been on LP the sound quality is lost-Mickey
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From: "John Haley" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Caruso on Murray Hill
> Funny you should bring up the Murray Hill LP Caruso set, Thomas. Several
> of us have had a recent discussion of a new CD box set "reissue" by Bayer,
> a German concern, of an earlier Bayer set from about 25 years ago, that
> one of the worst historical CD sets ever made. It was derived from the
> Murray Hill Caruso LPs, pushed thru No-Noise with disastrous results.
> is Gary Galo's 1990 review in the ARSC Journal:
> And it has had other negative press. Ironically, the new set sells for
> about double the cost of the best complete Caruso set on Naxos, based on
> Ward Marston's transfers.
> John Haley
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]>
>> Hi Dennis,
>> Interesting to know that Mendelssohn produced the Caruso set. IIRC, I
>> tried to obtain a copy, but RCA had suppressed it. It was
>> my belief that the set was a reprint of the OLYMPIC?? discs issued in
>> England (is that true, or was it a different transfer-if so who
>> did the engineering, was it any good????), but included extensive booklet
>> of notes. I think the
>> booklet showed up on some cut-out book lists. Rarely does the set appear
>> on auction. Can't be of much interest with the many CD reissues
>> of Caruso.
>> Any idea how many of the Murray Hill sets actually got into circulation
>> before being suppressed??
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>> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis Rooney
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:54 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The Mystery of Interloping Vox Discs
>> In reply to Dave Lewis,
>> "Ovation" was not a high-budget project. I was producing the Minnesota
>> Orchestra broadcasts in those days and also producing session recordings
>> them for Vox Productions, the proprietor of which, George H. de
>> Mendelssohn-Bartholdy, was also responsible for the Caruso issue on
>> Hill Lps, the subject of many recent posts. As I recall, he offered to
>> supply pressings of *Petrouchka* as a promotional gesture. The first
>> therefore, consisted of earlier MSO recordings as Dave notes. They were
>> transferred by me and the tape masters were cut and pressed by Vox, if
>> memory serves. They were the first historical recordings of the MSO to be
>> reissued. While I repent of the quality of some of the cuts on that disc,
>> am gratified that I was able to offer far better reissue quality on the
>> Minnesota Orchestra's Centennial CD Collection, which I produced in 2002.
>> Leibowitz's *Gurrelieder* is one of the best of the recordings of that
>> work but its Vox reissue was not covered in sonic glory. Although the
>> catalogue now has plenty of issues of it, it took several decades before
>> another creditable recorded performance came along.
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:46 AM, David Lewis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > I have here a set which my late friend Jud Yalkut was very proud to
>> > own and never expected to find myself: Haydn Society HSL-100,
>> > Schoenberg's "Gurre Lieder" conducted by René Leibowitz with soloists,
>> > chorus and the New Symphony Society of Paris. Engineered by André
>> > Charlin, copyright 1952. Or is it? The discs and booklet notes are from
>> Vox, VBX 204, released in 1962.
>> > One might assume that the previous owner swapped out their Haydn
>> > Society discs and book for those of the Vox reissue, but is it
>> > possible it was sold this way? Haydn Society having some album sets
>> > left over which Vox cannabalized?
>> > Also I have a set, "Ovation," celebrating the 75th Anniversary of the
>> > Minnesota Orchestra in 1978 and produced by a chap named Dennis Rooney.
>> > Inside is a disc on the Minnesota Orchestra label presenting a survey
>> > of the orchestra's recorded output ranging from 1925 to 1961, and then
>> > a Vox disc of Skrowaczeski conducting Stravinsky and Prokofiev which
>> > absolutely belongs to this set -- the liners are printed on the back
>> > cover of the gatefold. Was it more economical to just use the Vox
>> > pressing of the second disc and to concentrate the budget on the first?
>> > thanks,
>> > Uncle Dave Lewis
>> 1006 Langer Way
>> Delray Beach, FL 33483
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