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Subject:

Re: Caruso on Murray Hill

From:

Gene Baron <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:12:47 -0400

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I remember buying the Murray Hill set as a graduate student in a
book/record store in Bloomington IN in either 1974 or 1975.  It was
absurdly cheap, even for then.

Gene

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:18 PM, John Haley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Funny you should bring up the Murray Hill LP Caruso set, Thomas.  Several
> of us have had a recent discussion of a new CD box set "reissue" by Bayer,
> a German concern, of an earlier Bayer set from about 25 years ago, that was
> one of the worst historical CD sets ever made.  It was derived from the
> Murray Hill Caruso LPs, pushed thru No-Noise with disastrous results.  Here
> is Gary Galo's 1990 review in the ARSC Journal:
> ​w​
> ww.arsc-audio.org/journals/v21/v21n2p283-289.pdf
> <http://www.arsc-audio.org/journals/v21/v21n2p283-289.pdf>
>
> And it has had other negative press.  Ironically, the new set sells for
> about double the cost of the best complete Caruso set on Naxos, based on
> Ward Marston's transfers.
>
> Best,
> John Haley
>
>  .
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Thomas Stern <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dennis,
> >   Interesting to know that Mendelssohn produced the Caruso set.  IIRC, I
> > tried to obtain a copy, but RCA had suppressed it.  It was
> > my belief that the set was a reprint of the OLYMPIC?? discs issued in
> > England (is that true, or was it a different transfer-if so who
> > did the engineering, was it any good????), but included extensive booklet
> > of notes.  I think the
> > booklet showed up on some cut-out book lists.  Rarely does the set appear
> > on auction.  Can't be of much interest with the many CD reissues
> > of Caruso.
> >   Any idea how many of the Murray Hill sets actually got into circulation
> > before being suppressed??
> > Thanks!
> > Thomas.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis Rooney
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 12:54 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] The Mystery of Interloping Vox Discs
> >
> > In reply to Dave Lewis,
> >
> > "Ovation" was not a high-budget project. I was producing the Minnesota
> > Orchestra broadcasts in those days and also producing session recordings
> by
> > them for Vox Productions, the proprietor of which, George H. de
> > Mendelssohn-Bartholdy, was also responsible for the Caruso issue on
> Murray
> > Hill Lps, the subject of many recent posts. As I recall, he offered to
> > supply pressings of *Petrouchka* as a promotional gesture. The first
> disc,
> > therefore, consisted of earlier MSO recordings as Dave notes. They were
> all
> > transferred by me and the tape masters were cut and pressed by Vox, if
> > memory serves. They were the first historical recordings of the MSO to be
> > reissued. While I repent of the quality of some of the cuts on that
> disc, I
> > am gratified that I was able to offer far better reissue quality on the
> > Minnesota Orchestra's Centennial CD Collection, which I produced in 2002.
> >
> > Leibowitz's *Gurrelieder* is one of the best of the recordings of that
> > work but its Vox reissue was not covered in sonic glory. Although the
> > catalogue now has plenty of issues of it, it took several decades before
> > another creditable recorded performance came along.
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > DDR
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:46 AM, David Lewis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have here a set which my late friend Jud Yalkut was very proud to
> > > own and never expected to find myself: Haydn Society HSL-100,
> > > Schoenberg's "Gurre Lieder" conducted by René Leibowitz with soloists,
> > > chorus and the New Symphony Society of Paris. Engineered by André
> > > Charlin, copyright 1952. Or is it? The discs and booklet notes are from
> > Vox, VBX 204, released in 1962.
> > > One might assume that the previous owner swapped out their Haydn
> > > Society discs and book for those of the Vox reissue, but is it
> > > possible it was sold this way? Haydn Society having some album sets
> > > left over which Vox cannabalized?
> > >
> > > Also I have a set, "Ovation," celebrating the 75th Anniversary of the
> > > Minnesota Orchestra in 1978 and produced by a chap named Dennis Rooney.
> > > Inside is a disc on the Minnesota Orchestra label presenting a survey
> > > of the orchestra's recorded output ranging from 1925 to 1961, and then
> > > a Vox disc of Skrowaczeski conducting Stravinsky and Prokofiev which
> > > absolutely belongs to this set -- the liners are printed on the back
> > > cover of the gatefold. Was it more economical to just use the Vox
> > > pressing of the second disc and to concentrate the budget on the first?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Uncle Dave Lewis
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1006 Langer Way
> > Delray Beach, FL 33483
> > 212.874.9626
> >
>

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