Forgive my ignorance, Ellis.  What is the difference between 
"reflection" and "reverb?"  Natural vs artificial?  Single reflection vs 
total of all reflections?


On 10/26/2016 3:41 PM, Ellis Burman wrote:
> The usage Corey refers to is for "room tone" to be recorded, because the
> location is never completely silent, and that room tone audio can be used
> in post under ADR, or to fill gaps in production sound edits.  Ambience has
> a different meaning in the film world than say, in the music world, where
> is often is used to describe the "liveliness" of a location.
>
> Good location sound recordists do, in addition to recording room tone, also
> record an impulse, that can then be used in post as Pete alluded to. The
> impulse can then be loaded into a convolution processor to re-create the
> sound (reflections, reverb) of the set for mixing ADR or added Foley.
>
> Ellis
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Pete Tinker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Corey, wouldn't you require a test sound to be recorded on the "silent"
>> set?  I can't see a way to get useful information in the absence of
>> recording actual reflections of a known sound.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/26/2016 12:35 PM, Corey Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Merriam-Webster defines "Ambience" as:
>>>
>>>    1.
>>>
>>>       :  a feeling or mood associated with a particular place, person,
>>>       or thing : atmosphere
>>>       <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atmosphere>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the production side of the film/TV industry, the location mixer will
>>> often ask for "Quiet on the Set" so the room tone (ambience or part of
>>> atmospheres collection) can be recorded to be later used in post production
>>> to match ADR with the original production dialogue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Corey
>>> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>>> www.baileyzone.net
>>>
>>> On 10/26/2016 9:29 AM, Don Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/10/2016, Lou Judson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The only way to measure it would be in a silence of the musicians, and
>>>>> subtracting the surface noise of the disc. Usually empty room time is
>>>>> edited out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think ambience is the complex set of reverberations and echoes
>>>> produced by each instrument in each position in the room.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't the noise you might detect in the same room when it is empty.
>>>>
>>>> Izotope RX detects and can remove or measure it, even show you a
>>>>> visual representation..
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps if you describe why you want  to knwo wecould be more helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> <L>
>>>>> Lou Judson
>>>>> Intuitive Audio
>>>>> 415-883-2689
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Steven Smolian<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ambience of the room.
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lou Judson
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 2:21 PM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Ambience
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you meaning signal to noise? Or the ambience of the room it was
>>>>>> recorded in?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>
>> --
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>>
>
>

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