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New 3 album anthology of Savoy Hotel Orpheans

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Mickey Clark <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:30:08 -0800

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   Now available - the following track lists are for my new items and here's 
a sample of one of the tracks https://youtu.be/97fcrLvmDvk


                                             Savoy Orpheans #1


The Savoy Orpheans was formed and directed by ex-army bandmaster Debroy 
Somers, in 1923. Wilfred de Mornys managed both the Orpheans and the Savoy 
Havana Band (led by Bert Ralton and later Reg Batten. Under Debroy Somers 
the lineup in 1925 was Vernon Ferry-Walter Lyme-t/ Chick moore-tb/Herb 
Finney-Al Starita-cl-as/ Ray Starita-cl-ts/ Cyril Ramon Newton-vn-v/ Frank 
Herbin-p/ Pete Mandell-bj/ Fred Underhaye-bb/ Alec Cripps-d/ Debroy 
Somers-d.  I have included other recording of Debroy Somers' own band after 
Carroll Gibbons took over at the Savoy Hotel. This album also includes a 
rare occurance of Gibbons directing the New Mayfair Dance Orchestra in a 
medley from "This Year Of Grace" (Coward) in 1928   The Orpheans were later 
led by violinist Cyril Ramon Newton, and then by pianist Carroll 
Gibbons.When de Morny's contract with the Savoy Hotel company ended on 31 
December 1927, the Orpheans disbanded. In early December 1927 newspapers 
reported of the Hotel management denying the rumour that the Savoy Orpheans, 
Savoy Havana Band and the Sylvians were to leave. Reg Batten, of the Savoy 
Havana Band stayed on at the Hotel and led a band with the name "Savoy 
Orpheans (1928)", indicatng legal issues concerning the rights to the 
original name. It was not until 1931 that pianist Carroll Gibbons returned 
from working at MGM in Hollywood and, with saxophonist Howard Jacobs, formed 
a new ensemble "the Savoy Hotel Orpheans".  Rupert D'Oyly Carte, the owner 
of the Savoy Hotel,  called the original Orpheans and their colleagues, 
"probably the best-known bands in Europe."  Rust, who wrote in 1971 of the 
original Orpheans: "their very name personifies the Dancing Twenties … and 
their broad versatility … made this imprint in a way that no band had done 
before and few have achieved since". The lineup of the SHB was George 
Eskdale-Harry Thompson-t/ Bernard Tipping-tb/ Van Phillips and 
another-cl-as/ Leslie Bates-cl-ts/Reginald Batten-vn-ldr/ Ramon Newton-vn-v/ 
Billy Mayerl-p/ Dave Thomas-bj/ Jim Bellamy-bb/Ronnie Gubertini-d. I believe 
the vocal on 'I May Be Dancing' could be Jim Miller and Charlie Farrell. ~ 
Mickey Clark


Disc #1 CD353A

1-SOME DAY IN CAMBAY    SAVOY HAVANA BAND-BERT RALTON     COL 3266 03/01/23 
73240 RALTON-MAYERL
2-SUNSHINE    SAVOY HAVANA BAND-BERT RALTON         COL 3266 03/01/23 73241 
MORRIS
3-HELLO 'TUCKY    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS                 HMV B2090 07/24/25 
6399 HANLEY
4-COLLEGIATE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS                 HMV B2090 07/24/25 6400 
JAFFE
5-BAH BAH BARTHOLEMEW    SAVOY HAVANA BAND-BERT RALTON    CYRIL RAMON 
NEWTON?HMV B5002 01/22/26 7758 MELCLIFFE-KING
6-TWO OF US    SAVOY HAVANA BAND-BERT RALTON CYRIL RAMON NEWTON HMV B5002 
01/22/26 7759 PHILLIPS-CAMPBELL-CONNELLY
7-PICADOR SAVOY HAVANA BAND-BERT RALTON    HARRY GLEN     COL 3938 04/01/26 
3052 MORELLE-NICHOLLS
8-DID YOU FORGET?    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    HMV 5144 01/01/26 9076 BATTEN
9-I MAY BE DANCING WTH SOMEBODY ELSE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS HMV 5144 
01/01/26    9269 CONRAD
10-TIP-TOES-MEDLEY    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    HMV 5108 01/01/26 BR590/BR591 
GERSHWIN    TIP-TOES
WAITING FOR A TRAIN-WHEN SHALL WE DANCE-THAT SWEET AND LOW DOWN-NICE 
BABY-?-LOOKING FOR A BOY-THAT CERTAIN FEELING
11-BACK BEATS    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    HMV 5226 02/23/27 10206    GUARANTE
12-GEORGIA HOME    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    HMV 5226 02/23/27 10207 
CONRAD-SPIER
13-NIGHT TIME BRINGS DREAMS OF YOU    DEBROY SOMERS BAND COL    4403 
05/31/27 A5600 CONLEY-DAVIS
14-SO BLUE    DEBROY SOMERS    COL 4403 05/31/27 A5599    DE 
SYLVA-BROWN-HENDERSON
15-THIS YEAR OF GRACE MEDLEY NEW MAYFAIR ORCHESTRA-CARROLL GIBBONS DIR 
03/01/28
Dance Little Lady-Teach Me To Dance Like Granma-Try To Learn To Love (Freddy 
Gardner solo)-Mary Make Believe
16-PLANTATION SONGS SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    PAUL ROBESON    HMV C1585 
10/02/28 14611 VARIOUS
17-EE,BY GUM    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS-CARROLL GIBBONS    GRACIE FIELDS    RZN 
2767 11/13/28 14929 FLYNN
18-SONNY BOY    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    PAUL ROBESON    HMV 2948 01/28/29 
15802 DE SYLVA-BROWN-HENDERSON-JOLSON
19-VALSE MEMORIES DEBROY SOMERS BAND  OVER THE WAVES/MOONLIGHT MADONNA/ 
DIANE  /CHARMAINE    COL 5244 03/01/29 A8261
20-SAVOY CHRISTMAS MEDLEY-FOX TROT    DEBROY SOMERS    COL 5441 09/17/29 
A9497
21-SAVOY CHRISTMAS MEDLEY-ONE STEP    DEBROY SOMERS    COL 5441 09/17/29 
A9498

                            Disc #2 CD353B


        This album features five vocals by the fabulous Al Bowlly. Al sang 
with a multitude of bands - some in his native tongue -Africaans. Debroy 
Somers' name was never on the Savoy Orpheans records and only got credit for 
his records after he left the hotel. He directed the first four tracks on 
this album and used his own name or the pseudonym 'The Midnight Minstrels in 
the case of the 'Love Parade' Medley. Somers is said to have been proficient 
at all the instruments of the orchestra. William Henry Somers was born at 
the Doctor Steevens Hospital in Dublin Ireland on 11 April 1890, was the 
second of four children of William George and Clara Somers of Ship Street 
Barracks. After a stint in the British army, in 1919, Somers went to London 
where he had contacts in the musical world. He joined the Aeolian Company as 
its Director of Light Music. (Aeolian was a producer of player pianos and 
organs, and had started their line of records. The Vocalion  Dance Orchestra 
and Venetian Dance Orchestra were two of the bands Somers conducted, his 
name sometimes appears on the labels of the Vocalion Dance Orchestra. 
Arranging for their recordibng sessions gave him valuable exposure.   He 
formed the original Savoy Orpheans in the mid twenties. After the contract 
with the hotel ended in 1927, he continued recording under his own name. 
Here is a lineup for the Debroy Somers Band Jimmy Wornell-Vernon Mayall-t/ 
Jock Flemming-tb/  Charlie Swinnerton-Wright-as/ R. G. Somers-Oboe/ Gerry 
McQuillan-bassoon/A. Jacobs, Jean Pougnet-vn/ Nigel Newitt-bj        Norman 
Perry-Ronnie Munro-p/ Fred Underhaye W.Barnes-d.      Carroll Gibbons 
returned to England in 1931, after working for M.G.M. Studios in California. 
With saxophonist Howard Jacobs Gibbons created a new band. There's A Time 
And A Place For Everything  is a major departure in style and it really 
rocks - setting it apart from the Debroy Somers band. It is Al's first vocal 
with the Savoy Hotel Orpheans.  In the early thirties, the personnel for the 
SHO was
Bill Shakespeare, Billy Higgs -t/Arthur Fenoulhet, Paul Fenoulhet-t-tb/Sam 
Acres-tb/ George Smith-cl-ts/ George Melachrino-cl-as/Laurie Payne- 
cl-as-bar /
Ben Frankel-vn/ Harry Sherman-g / Carroll Gibbons-ldr-p/ Sid Bright-2nd p/ 
Jack Evetts-sb/ Rudy Starita-d  ~ Mickey Clark





                                  Debroy Somers and the Savoy Hotel 
Orpheans(Carroll Gibbons) Disc #2 CD353B


1-LOVE PARADE-GEMS    DEBROY SOMERS (MIDNIGHT MINSTRELS) REG    MR80 
01/01/29 WAR120/WAR121    GREY-SCHERTZINGER LOVE PARADE
2-RO-RO-ROLLIN' ALONG    DEBROY SOMERS BAND COL    CB83 05/29/30 WA10420 
MOLL-RICHMAN-MENCHER
3-AMY    DEBROY SOMERS BAND         COL    CB83 06/02/30 WA10445 
GILBERT-NICHOLLS
4-VIENNESE NIGHTS-MEDLEY-DEBROY SOMERS(MIDNIGHT MINSTRELS) I BRING A LOVE 
SONG-HERE WE ARE-YOU WILL REMEMBER VIENNA-REGIMENTAL MARCH-  REG MR 286 WAR 
470/WAR471  HAMMERSTEIN-ROMBERG      VIENNESE NIGHTS
5-THERE'S A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    AL 
BOWLLY COL CB376 10/19/31 12092 TURK-AHLERT
6-SWEET AND LOVELY    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    AL BOWLLY COL    CB376 
10/19/31 12093 ARNHEIM-TOBIAS-LE MARE
7-WHO AM I?    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    AL BOWLLY COL CB377 10/31/31 12139 
GIFFORD-MILNE-NEWMAN
8-LINDA    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    AL BOWLLY      COL CB377 10/31/31 12140 
TOBIAS-TRENT-DE ROSE
9-YOU ARE MY HEART'S DELIGHT    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS INST COL    CB381 
11/25/31 12187 LEHAR
10-SONG OF SONGS    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    INST      COL CB381 11/25/31 
12188 MOYA
11-WHITE FLOWER OF THE ISLANDS    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS COL CB387 JACK 
PLANT-HUMMING    11/25/31 12208 ABRAHAM    FLOWER OF HAWAII
12-I'M JUST A DARKIE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    INST COL CB387 11/25/31 
12209 ABRAHAM    FLOWER OF HAWAII
13-ALONE WITH MY DREAMS SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS JACK PLANT COL CB389 12/02/31 
12246 EYTON-BUCHANAN
14-I APOLOGIZE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    JACK PLANT COL CB389 12/02/31 
12247 HOFFMAN-GOODHART-NELSON
15-CONSOLATION    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    JACK PLANT COL CB412 01/16/32 
12346 GOTTLER-BOOTH
16-BY THE FIRESIDE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    JACK PLANT COL CB412 01/16/32 
12359 NOBLE-CAMPBELL-CONNELLY
17-I'LL MAKE A HAPPY LANDING    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    JACK PLANT COL DO668 
02/04/32 FIELDS-MCHUGH    FLYING HIGH
18-ALL OF ME    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    JACK PLANT COL    DO668 02/04/32 
12398 SIMONS-MARKS
19-SAVE THE LAST DANCE FOR ME    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS AL BOWLLY COL CB426 
02/16/32 12426 HIRSCH-MAGINE
20-FIRE IN MY HEART    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    COL CB426 02/16/32 12434 
MILLS-KNOX
21-COLUMBIA ON PARADE Jack Payne/Norman Long/Albert Sandler/Raymond 
Newell/Flotsam & Jetsam/Harry Tate/Trevor Watson/Binnie Hale/Debroy Somers 
Band/Billy Mayerl/Layton & Johnstone/Len Fillis/Stanley Holloway/Will 
Fyffe/Harry Dirth  COL DX299 09/30/27 6246

                Savoy Hotel Orpheans 1932-1945 Disc #3 CD353C



Carroll Gibbons  was American born (Jan.4,1903) and raised in Clinton, 
Massachusetts. By 1921 he found his way to London's Royal Academy of Music 
and by 1924 was engaged with the Boston Orchestra at the Savoy Hotel. Liking 
Britain, he remained there, later becoming co-leader of the Savoy Orpheans 
recording for Columbia and the leader of the New MayFair Orchestra, which 
recorded for HMV. In 1929, Gibbons appeared in the British film Splinters as 
Carroll Gibbons and His Masters Voice Orchestra. He returned to the U.S.over 
1930/1931 to work as staff composer for MGM Studiosin Hollywood. Upon his 
return to England he took over the Savoy Hotel Orpheans and also recorded as 
Carroll Gibbons and his Boy Friends, featuring vocals by Hildegarde. Jack 
Plant was born in Partington, near Manchester on 26th August 1896. He first 
started singing as a member of the choir at the local Congregational Church. 
Called up for war service in 1914, he was three-and-a-half years in France. 
He sang there, entertaining his fellow servicemen in Concert Parties.After 
the war he joined the Manchester Bloom Street Choir before moving to London 
to study voice with Webster Miller, a leading tenor at the Beecham Opera 
House.  Jack's voice was more suitable for light vocals so he took up chorus 
work and toured with musical comedy companies up to 1928.
Maurice Elwin, well-known with London bandleaders, introduced Jack to dance 
bands. Soon Jack was gaining a following and in 1929, signed on with the 
Savoy Hotel Orpheans and also subbed for Pat O'Malley with the Jack Hylton 
Band although he Jack appeared with Hylton at the London Palladium he was 
nevera regular singer with Hylton.  A historic Jack Hylton broadcast to 
America on 15th December 1931 gave him really good exposure and a stint with 
Sydney Kyte and his Piccadilly Hotel band in 1935. He also sang with 
Mantovani, Ambrose and Henry Hall's Orchestra - again entertaining the 
troops on an ENSA tour and broadcasting on the Forces Programme. Less well 
known about him was that he also played piano and duetted with Billy Mayerl. 
South African pianist Harry Jacobson was a friend of two other S.A's - Raie 
Da Costa and Al Bowlly. This is the personnel of the SHO :Bill Shakespeare, 
Billy Higgs -t/Arthur Fenoulhet, Paul Fenoulhet-t-tb/Sam Acres-tb/ George 
Smith-cl-ts/ George Melachrino-cl-as/Laurie Payne- cl-as-bar /
Ben Frankel-vn/ Harry Sherman-g / Carroll Gibbons-ldr-p/ Sid Bright-2nd p/ 
Jack Evetts-sb/ Rudy Starita-d  ~ Mickey Clark








Savoy Hotel Orpheans 1932-1945 Disc #3 CD353C

1-TELL ME WITH A LOVE SONG    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS COL CB438 03/24/32 
12537 KOELER-ARLEN
2-JUST HUMMING ALONG    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    COL CB438 03/24/32 12538 
HARGREAVES-DAMERELL-EWING-MYERS
3-SHE DIDN'T SAY YES    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    PEGGY WOOD COL    CB432 
05/03/32 12497 HARBACH-KERN CAT AND THE FIDDLE
4-TRY TO FORGET    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS JACK PLANT COL    CB432 05/03/32 
12498 HARBACH-KERN CAT AND THE FIDDLE
5-YOU'RE BLASE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS JACK PLANT    COL    CB400 07/01/32 
12285 SIEVIER-HAMILTON BOW BELLS
6-MONA LISA    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS JACK PLANT    COL CB400 07/01/32 12323 
SIEVIER-HAMILTON    BOW BELLS
7-OOH THAT KISS    CARROLL GIBBONS AND HIS BOY FRIENDS    INST         COL 
DB899 05/01/32    12821 WARREN
8-CABIN IN THE COTTON    CARROLL GIBBONS AND HIS BOY FRIENDS    INST COL 
DB899 06/01/32    12868 PARISH-PERKINS
9-DON'T SAY GOODBYE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    COL CB513 10/01/32 13125 
CARTER-STOLTZ    WILD VIOLETS
10-YOU JUST YOU    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS        COL CB513 10/01/32 13126 
CARTER-STOLTZ    WILD VIOLETS
11-ROCK-A-BYE MOON    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    COL    CB619 02/06/33    13661 
JOHNSON-STEELE-LANG
12-STORMY WEATHER    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS JACK PLANT    COL CB619 02/06/33 
13663 KOELER-ARLEN
13-NIGHT AND DAY    CARROLL GIBBONS-HARRY JACOBSON        COL DB1288 
06/01/34 14106 COLE PORTER GAY DIVORCEE
14-GAY DIVORCEE-MEDLEY    CARROLL GIBBONS-HARRY JACOBSON       COL DB1288 
06/01/34    14107 COLE PORTER GAY DIVORCEE
After You-Who?/I've got You On My Mind
15-YOU'VE GOT TO ADMIT    CARROLL GIBBONS AND HIS BOY FRIENDS COL    DB1478 
11/01/34    14782 GIBBONS    HI DIDDLE DIDDLE
16-SMOKE GETS IN YOUR EYES    CARROLL GIBBONS AND HIS BOY FRIENDS COL 
DB1478 11/01/34    14783 KERN
17-FOR ME,FOR YOU    CARROLL GIBBONS AND HIS BOY FRIENDS HILDEGARDE COL 
DB1556 05/20/35 15064 TOWERS-ARDEN
18-DARLING,JE VOUS AIME BEAUCOUP CARROLL GIBBONS AND HIS BOY FRIENDS 
HILDEGARDE COL DB1556    05/20/35 15065 SOSENKO
19-ON THE AVENUE-MEDLEY- LET'S GO SLUMING/YOU'RE LAUGHING AT ME/HE AIN'T GOT 
RHYTHM/THS YEAR'S KISSES/I'VE GOT MY LOVE TO KEEP ME WARM/ GIRL ON THE 
POLICE GAZETTE SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    SAM BROWNE COL FB1741 07/01/37 16407 
BERLIN      CA16407/CA16467 BERLIN
20-ROSALIE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    COL FB1884 09/01/37 16802 PORTER 
ROSALIE
21-IN THE STILL OF THE NIGHT    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS COL FB1884 09/01/37 
16803    PORTER    ROSALIE
22-MADELAINE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    LESLIE DOUGLAS    COL FB2788 
01/01/41 18930 SPITALNEY-CAPWELL
23-BABY MINE    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    ANNE LENNER COL    FB2788 
01/01/41 18931 WASHINGTON-CHURCHILL
24-LAURA    SAVOY HOTEL ORPHEANS    PAUL CARPENTER    COL FB3136 01/01/45 
19808 MERCER-RASKIN    LAURA


Mickey Clark
710 Westminster Avenue West
Penticton BC
Canada
250-462-7881
V2A 1K8
http://mcproductions.ca
1-250-462-7881


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