I surprised no one has mentioned the Pristine Classical transfers. I had a
few & they can sound astonishingly well. Mr Rose used the then new Capstan
software to tame the wow & flutter.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Those Schnabel transfers from the 1950s that Dennis referred to are
> plagued with pitch flutter. Those are the ones that first appeared on RCA
> Victor Red Seal, then on EMI/Angel's COLH Great Recordings of the Century
> LPs, and then on Seraphim LPs. No matter how good that original source may
> have been, the transfer was worse than indifferent - it was awful, badly
> over-filtered in addition to the pitch instability. I believe Charles
> Gerhardt was responsible for it - Dennis can probably confirm this.
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> Many record companies dubbed metals to tape in the 1950s and 60s,
> declicked them with garden shears and then junked the metals. So, you have
> the choice of an indifferent dub of an excellent source with gulps and a
> corrupted timebase or a modern transfer of a commercial presssing.
> Not an enviable choice...I once did a set of the Calvet Quartet from
> metals in excellent condition. One review took me to task for
> over-processing. Very little was actually required...what was I supposed to
> do - add surface noise?
> On 15/12/2016 21:06, Don Cox wrote:
> > On 08/12/2016, Gary A. Galo wrote:
> >> Hi Jim,
> >> Seth Winner did them for Pearl many years ago - they do turn up on
> >> Amazon. I have the Naxos Historical CDs that Mark Obert Thorn did,
> >> and they sound very good. Although "Not for Sale in the US", Amazon
> >> 3rd-party vendors have them. There are a total of 11 volumes. Try
> >> searching for " schnabel beethoven naxos" as well as " schnabel
> >> beethoven naxos historical" to come up with all of the available
> >> choices. Some dealers are charging over-the-top prices for them.
> >> There's a new set from Warner/EMI that claims to be new 96/24
> >> transfers:
> >> https://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-Sonatas-Artur-Schnabel/dp/B01G
> >> IUNCNM/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1481231831&sr=1-1&keywords=schn
> >> abel+beethoven
> >> You can't beat the price. The old EMI set sounded like crap - avoid
> >> it. The newer transfers done by EMI at Abbey Road have been much
> >> better than their work from the 1980s and 90s. If I had to do it, I
> >> think I'd take a chance on that new Warner/EMI set.
> > I bought the new Warner set. It is a dsisaster. Somebody turned the
> > noise reduction up to 11, and the remaining sound does not resemble a
> > piano. It is more like a cheap 1980s electronic keyboard.
> > I think the Naxos set is the best. There is still noise, but it does
> > sound like a piano.
> > Regards
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