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Subject:

Re: Requiem pour BIBFRAME?

From:

"Murray, Ronald" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 24 May 2017 09:46:27 -0400

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Jeff:

Everyone makes their own soup, but how¹s the taste test?

Just to see what happens ­ and shake he tree a bit ­ could you send your
BnF colleague the two exemplars I sent your way? They should expose
weaknesses, if any, in the graph-theoretical underpinnings of their
Nouvelle Vague.

Should they object to having to catalog the Norton Critical Edition, you
might point out that the "publication boundary² defined by the publisher
does not necessarily align with the discovery and access boundary defined
by the user. If we expect automated systems to support catalogers in
recursion-friendly resource description and access, reaching into
something like "Eight Modern Plays" to discover the ³Works² therein should
be a default behavior (could Watson do it?).

Ron M.

BTW: Have I sent you a set of diagrams that illustrate how the diagrams
"translate down² into pseudo triples"



On 5/24/17, 8:58 AM, "Bibliographic Framework Transition Initiative Forum
on behalf of Jeff Edmunds" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Thanks Karen. Yes, I'm aware of Emmanuelle and read her blog post
>yesterday.
>
>Also yesterday, I learned from a different contact at the Bibliothèque
>nationale de France
>that they (the BnF) are planning to continue using INTERMARC and to
>"mutate"
>it ("le faire 'muter'") to conform more closely with the spirit of LRM.
>This
>implies, to me at least, that BIBFRAME is moribund, at best, in France.
>The new initiative is being
>referred to as "Intermarc Nouvelle Génération." I'll be extremely
>curious to see what the folks at the BnF make of the March 2017 revision
>to
>the LRM.
>
>Jeff
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date:    Mon, 22 May 2017 12:49:44 -0700
>From:    Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Requiem pour BIBFRAME?
>
>There was BnF representation at the recent LD4P meeting at Stanford,
>which was primarily about BIBFRAME. One of the BnF folks, Emmanuelle
>Bermes, wrote about it in her blog:
>
>https://figoblog.org/2017/05/03/ld4p-un-grand-soir-pour-les-bibliotheques-
>americaines/
>
>She's quite approachable if you would like more information.
>
>kc
>
>
>On 5/22/17 9:05 AM, Jeff Edmunds wrote:
>> As some are already aware, the magnificent linked data portal of the
>>Bibliothèque nationale de France (data.bnf.fr) does not use BIBFRAME,
>>simply because the RDF data model employed predates BIBFRAME. Which made
>>me wonder what the future of BIBFRAME may be in France, where data
>>models like FRBRoo with finer levels of granularity and seemingly better
>>adapted for audiovisual mateials are being investigated.
>> 
>> This is no doubt premature, and will be primarily of interest to
>>Francophone catalogers/technologists:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2teSCVVaU7w
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>
>-- 
>Karen Coyle
>[log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net
>m: +1-510-435-8234
>skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Mon, 22 May 2017 15:50:13 -0700
>From:    Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Requiem pour BIBFRAME?
>
>There was BnF representation at the recent LD4P meeting at Stanford,
>which was primarily about BIBFRAME. One of the BnF folks, Emmanuelle
>Bermes, wrote about it in her blog:
>
>https://figoblog.org/2017/05/03/ld4p-un-grand-soir-pour-les-bibliotheques-
>americaines/
>
>She's quite approachable if you would like more information. Basically,
>their record format (based on UniMARC) has had linking capabilities for
>a long time. Ours does not, which means that moving to RDF becomes a
>plausible solution. Presumably we could adopt the French version of
>UniMARC, which seems quite flexible. But both France and Germany have
>had the ability to link wholes with parts and related bibliographic
>descriptions for a while. We are behind on that score.
>
>kc
>
>On 5/22/17 9:05 AM, Jeff Edmunds wrote:
>> As some are already aware, the magnificent linked data portal of the
>>Bibliothèque nationale de France (data.bnf.fr) does not use BIBFRAME,
>>simply because the RDF data model employed predates BIBFRAME. Which made
>>me wonder what the future of BIBFRAME may be in France, where data
>>models like FRBRoo with finer levels of granularity and seemingly better
>>adapted for audiovisual mateials are being investigated.
>> 
>> This is no doubt premature, and will be primarily of interest to
>>Francophone catalogers/technologists:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2teSCVVaU7w
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>
>-- 
>Karen Coyle
>[log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net
>m: +1-510-435-8234
>skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Mon, 22 May 2017 18:03:09 -0500
>From:    violeta ilik <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: PCC Task Group on Identity Management in NACO @VIVO17
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>
>
>I wanted to share with all of you that the PCC Task Group on Identity
>Management in NACO
><https://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/documents/Identity-management-NACO-PCC-TG.pdf
>>
>will
>be presenting a workshop during the VIVO17 Conference
><http://vivoconference.org/> in NYC on August 2nd. We are very excited to
>have this opportunity to share our ideas with a broader community and get
>a
>chance to receive feedback from community leaders.
>
>
>
>The information on the workshop can be found on the following link:
>http://vivoconference.org/news/vivo17workshops
>
>
>
>Those of you in the NYC area interested in participating please consider
>attending the workshop and/or the conference.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Violeta Ilik
>
>VIVO17 Program Chair
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of BIBFRAME Digest - 22 May 2017 to 23 May 2017 (#2017-52)
>**************************************************************

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