Robert:

As an attachment, I'm sending you two other song titles that may be of interest.  If you can't open the attachment, let me know, and I'll send the info as text within the e-mail.

Just found out that it's a bit complicated to send an attachment to the ARSC Listserv, so I'm including the info as text within this e-mail.  Sorry my original bold titles also dropped out. So the two song titles are: Two Pair of Shoes, and Sam, You Made the Pants Too Long. Please see below for the full catalog entry.

Sara Velez
New York City

Two pair of shoes : fox trot 
Author:	Vaughn Monroe; Mildred Law; Ziggy Talent

Publisher:	Camden, N.J. : Bluebird, [1941]
Edition/Format:	  Music : 78 rpm : English 
Database:	WorldCat
	
Subjects	•	Dance orchestra music. 
•	Foxtrots. 


Indiana University, Archives of Traditional Music 
Bloomington, IN 47405 United States	 		

	
Document Type:	Sound Recording
Music Type:	Jazz; Dance forms
All Authors / Contributors:	Vaughn Monroe; Mildred Law; Ziggy Talent
Find more information about:  

OCLC Number:	29464711
Performer(s):	Mildred Law (side A), Ziggy Talent (side B), vocal ; Vaughn Monroe and his orchestra, performers. [Johnny Watson, director; Vaugh Monroe, Dino Digiaro, Robert Nichols, Benedict Gustaferro, trumpet; Al Diehl, Joe Connie, Art Dedrick, trombone; Andrew Bagni, Don Falco, Frank Levine, alto sax; Ziggy Talent, tenor sax; Arnold Ross, piano; Guy Scafati, guitar; Jimmy Athens, string bass; Irving Rosenthal, drums]--Cf. The American dance band discography / Rust, 1975.
Event notes:	Recorded in New York, June 30, 1941--Cf. Rust, 1975.
Description:	1 audio disc : analog, 78 rpm, mono ; 10 in.
Other Titles:	Sam, you made the pants too long
Responsibility:	Twomey, George, Hall ; [performed by] Vaughn Monroe and his orchestra. Sam, you made the pants too long : fox trot / Sam M. Lewis, Victor Young ; parody by Fred Whitehouse ; [performed by] Vaughn Monroe and his orchestra.


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Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] help with identifying

Robert:

The Lord Discography lists only one record with the name Irving Rosenthal on it as a drummer.  It is with the Vaughn Monroe Orchestra.  The name of the tune is, "Harvard Square" (Blue Bird B11310) recorded on June 30, 1941.

There is one other Irving Rosenthal listed as a French horn player in the Stan Kenton band with several recording sessions in 1956.  If you would like, I could list those sessions as well. 

I hope this helps.

Paul Fredricksen
Brookfield, WI 

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Subject: [ARSCLIST] help with identifying

My grandfather – born around 1900 – was a drummer and played with some of the big bands.  He might have been the first drummer recorded on a 78 record.
My father had a huge collection of 78’s including some my grandfather might have been on but the collection was lost.
 
We even found the attached picture but can’t identify much about other than my grandfather – Irving Rosenthal – is of course standing behind the drums.
And there are two members that look like the Lombardo’s – but never confirmed.
 
Can you help in any way figuring out any records he might have been on or the band in the picture.
 
My grandfather grew up in the Bronx. NY and moved to Yonkers, NY at some point. After he gave up his musical career he became a liquor salesman (before, during and after prohibition  😊 ) He actually started the liquor salesmen’s union in the area.
 
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
 
Robert M Rosenthal
Hartsdale, NY 10530
Cell 914 310 6056
 


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