In our experience at the Internet Archive, if something is available for
public download and for sale, the sales have not diminished, or at least
not easy to track either way: up or down. Not what you would expect,
this has been true for the Prelinger Archives (movies), National Academy
of Sciences (reports), and others.
I hope you might try posting the pdf's on the site, send pdf's to
members, continue to deliver hardcopies that want to subscribe, and see
what happens. If it is negative in ways, then adapt.
This way there will be other tools, such as google's search engine,
Internet Archive' archives, and others-- that can build on the work of
this group.
I suggest there is little risk in trying.
Together we can bring 78rpm records with information about them, to
everyone, even those that don't yet know they will love them.
-brewster
On 4/29/18 4:22 AM, Terri Brinegar wrote:
> Well, it’s not “elitist,” but it has to do with money, of course. The colleges pay fees to the organizations, such as JSTOR and RILM, that house the journals. But yes, I agree, it would be nice if folklorists could access this information.
>
> Terri Brinegar
> PhD Candidate in Ethnomusicology
> University of Florida
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>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 1:22 AM, CJB <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> I hate this restriction on accessing Journals restricted to big
>> academia only aka registered as a bonafide student at a recognised
>> college whatever. I research folk lore, song, dance and music - but am
>> banned from accessing the journals that I need. I am only a pensioner
>> but am deemed too ignorant to be allowed to read about others
>> research. Its damned elitist and such an attitude has no place in
>> today's open society. CJB
>>
>> On 29/04/2018, Nathan Georgitis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Hi Brewster,
>>>
>>> Yes the idea of an open access publication model for the ARSC Journal has
>>> been discussed. It may be time to revisit it and assess the potential
>>> impacts relative to the mission of the association. For example, a certain
>>> number of our institutional members, mostly academic libraries, are members
>>> only for the subscription to the hard copy of the journal. Given the
>>> pressure of increasing subscription costs for non-open access journals on
>>> library budgets the association would likely lose at least a small
>>> percentage of those members if the journal were open access. I'm not sure
>>> what the impacts of that might be, perhaps negligible if offset by increased
>>> royalties received from aggregators such as ProQuest, RILM, etc.
>>>
>>> BTW, all members also have full online access to all journal articles
>>> through ARSC's AMP database though the indexing may leave something to be
>>> desired as compared to Google as it is not full text. At any rate I agree
>>> with you that it's worth discussing as an association. If others have
>>> opinions or thoughts I'm sure the publications committee and the board would
>>> welcome hearing them. Please feel free to voice them here or direct them to
>>> me or a board member privately.
>>>
>>> I hope you get some ARSC volunteers to help with dating 15,000 undated
>>> sides! And please let me know which article you want and I'll send it
>>> along.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan Georgitis
>>> Executive Director
>>> Association for Recorded Sound Collections
>>> 1299 University of Oregon
>>> Eugene, OR 97403-1299
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>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
>>> <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Brewster Kahle
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 12:49 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] make arsc journal open access? Please!
>>>
>>> I am putting dates on 78rpm records in the Great 78 Project (we could use
>>> more help!).
>>>
>>> And I found an exciting lead in the ARSC Journal via google book search, but
>>> alas, I only get snippet view because of copyright problems:
>>>
>>> https://books.google.com/books?id=DjMJAQAAMAAJ&q=Velvet+Tone+1979-V+Jack+Miller+I+Want&dq=Velvet+Tone+1979-V+Jack+Miller+I+Want&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1yJOA3N3aAhWGj1QKHQsUCcUQ6AEIJzAA
>>>
>>> Would ARSC be up for making all of its journals open access and then try to
>>> get google to allow full searching of it?
>>>
>>> -brewster
>>>
>>>
>>> http://great78.archive.org is the project and we have 15,000 sides without
>>> dates out of 63,000. We have a small group working through
>>> this-- if you would like to help, please let me know.
>>>
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