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Re: What was the first recording of a Beethoven work?

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Gene Baron <[log in to unmask]>

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Sat, 28 Apr 2018 12:42:18 -0400

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Two wonderful singers - I certainly hope to get to it.  Thanks.

Gene

On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Dear Alex,
>
> Classical music is indeed sparsely represented on this year's conference
> program, but I will do a centennial tribute to sopranos Astrid Várnay and
> Birgit Nilsson that I hope you will be able to attend.
>
> Ciao,
>
> DDR
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 7:09 PM, Alex McGehee <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > A very interesting thread. Would be nice if such material, sources, and
> > demonstrations made it to an ARSC conference. I noticed only Bluegrass,
> > Disco, Rap, and the discovery that Baltimore is referred to as “Charm
> City”
> > in a quick scan of the program for our annual event. Despite many years
> > spent in the DC area, Baltimore’s nickname was a discovery. Sort of an
> > oxymoron from my experiences outside the tourist areas.
> >
> > “Wellington’s Victory” is a great reminder of the old Mercury recording
> > with Antal Dorati and the LSO. I bought it for the “1812” on  the other
> > side. The one with the “authentic” cannons and bells. Being something of
> a
> > Tchaikovsky nut in my youth, the recording allowed me a first experience
> of
> > a thoroughly mediocre work by Beethoven. Of course there are others and
> had
> > I not already placed all the “great composers” on such an exalted altar,
> I
> > would have realized that LvB had subpar days just like everyone else.
> >
> > Haydn’s pieces for Flötenuhr—the word is best translated as mechanical
> > organ—are a minor, but interesting group in the larger body of his work.
> > The still on-going, first complete edition of Haydn’s work considers 17
> of
> > these pieces to be genuine. Fifteen others, included in the relevant JHW
> > volume, are published in an appendix, but cannot be sourced to Haydn. The
> > editorial work which resulted in these divisions was done by Sonja
> Gerlach
> > and George Hill in the early 1980s. Gerlach is near irreproachable in her
> > scholarly work on Haydn.
> >
> > The princes Esterházy—particularly Nicholas II—were huge fans of
> > mechanical organs, and they most certainly featured their “personal”
> > composer’s works. A few of these devices have survived and they have
> > revealed some significant information to researchers regarding other
> Haydn
> > works, which we would not have known except for these wound up
> mechanicals.
> > Given their cost, they must have been the audiophile status equipment of
> > their day. Haydn was intimately involved in the transcription of his
> music
> > for them. He worked together with a very talented builder— Catholic
> priest,
> > Father Primitivus Niemecz, also on the Esterházy payroll. Haydn’s
> autograph
> > manuscript for the music in one of these organs requires 32 tones over a
> > three octave range. Unfortunately, because mainsprings wear out and get
> > replaced, we cannot rely on the devices for unquestioned authority in
> > matters of tempo. Given the pre-metronome times, that would have been
> good
> > information to have.
> >
> > If your eyes have not completely glazed over by this point, I would
> > strongly recommend tracking down Arthur Ord-Hume’s, Joseph Haydn and the
> > Mechanical Organ. The text is in English and the book features absolutely
> > terrific photographs of three of the clocks—still in playable condition,
> > inside and out diagrams of how they were constructed, and facsimiles of a
> > few surviving Haydn manuscripts for the works. I checked Abebooks.com <
> > http://abebooks.com/> (like half the bookselling world, now owned by
> > Amazon) and found it still available for under $20.
> >
> > Incidentally, the first known public hearing of any of Haydn’s Flötenuhr
> > music took place on June 14, 1926 as part of a Vienna radio broadcast.
> >
> > Salud,
> > Alex McGehee
> >
> > > On Apr 25, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Paul Jackson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Stanford Piano Roll project may be able to help with this.
> > > http://library.stanford.edu/blogs/stanford-libraries-blog/
> > 2015/11/piano-roll-scanner-project-prsp
> > >
> > > *Trescott Research - Paul T. Jackson *
> > >
> > > 2503 Natalie Lane, Steilacoom, WA 98388
> > >
> > > http://www.trescottresearch.com <http://www.trescottresearch.com/>
> > >
> > > Support Authors:
> > >
> > > http://www.plateauareawriters.org <http://www.plateauareawriters.org/>
> > >
> > > Support Musicians
> > >
> > > http://www.gatewayconcertband.org <http://www.gatewayconcertband.org/>
> > >
> > > On 4/25/2018 2:13 PM, Frank Forman wrote:
> > >> Does anyone have a piano roll listing? Schnabel punched 051n2 (Rondo
> in
> > G)
> > >> on Ampico 60613, in 1922, making it the first, since Kempff's disc
> > recording, P.66040 mx1721as, 1722� as, came in 1924.
> >
>
>
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