I’m in. Have been waiting for that invitation for years

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> On Aug 29, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Mickey Clark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> I'm heading to the Deccan Plateau to harvest some lac bug poo -anyone want to come and help?-Mickey
>
> -----Original Message----- From: David Katznelson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:20 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] anyone still stamping shellac?
>
> I am so loving this conversation. The idea of bringing back
> shellac.....just awesome.
> I just think of bands like the Ink Spots whose record sales were so
> impacted by the lack of shellac during the war. I just had to move my
> collection, reminding me how durable....yet HEAVY....shellac is.
>
> I love the idea of bringing it back. Seems like in the Heirloom world we
> live in, there has to be someone, SOMEWHERE...who would not love the idea
> of taking this project on. I would be one of the first people who would
> want to do a pressing.
>
> David
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:11 PM George Brock-Nannestad <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> From: Patent Tactics, George Brock-Nannestad
>>
>>
>> Hello -brewster and others,
>>
>> the main problems seem to be 1) the shellac-based mineral-filled material
>> must
>> be made up using modern machinery. There is no doubt that this can be
>> done,
>> only there will be a) a lot of experimenting with actual composition and
>> hot
>> rollers, and b) this modern equipment that has been re-purposed must be
>> cleaned
>> afterwards. Such things contribute heavily to cost. The raw materials are
>> available.
>>
>> 2) modern pressing plants would probably be able to do the job after
>> experimentation with the temperature cycles. This contributes heavily to
>> cost,
>> because the pressing machine cannot turn out revenue-creating vinyls at
>> the
>> same time.
>>
>> You need to metallize the original master, be it wax or lacquer. The
>> latter
>> could follow the standard procedure for vinyl records, in particular
>> disco-singles (45 rpm 12"), because they already use very large grooves.
>>
>> Wax is a different matter, but vacuum chambers are so large these days
>> that the
>> initial metallization could probably be made professionally to
>> specifications.
>>
>> In other fora I have proposed that the Columbia laminated process be used.
>> Here
>> we have pre-pregs with the fine shellac mixture laminated with a coarse
>> center.
>> Not compressed wood filings like Edison -- it would need to have a mineral
>> filler as the original records. I am willing to cooperate un such
>> projects. I
>> have cooperated on acoustic recording to disc.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> From: Brewster Kahle <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [ARSCLIST] anyone still stamping shellac?
>> Date sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:24:03 -0700
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>>
>>
>> > I have a musician/composer friend that would like to make a "real" 78 of
>> > a recent composition... is anyone stamping shellac these days for such
>> > folks?
>> >
>> > What I have seen from recent pressings in the great78 project seem to be
>> > more-or-less vinyl but turn at 78rpm-- this does not seem to qualify for
>> > this purpose.
>> >
>> > -brewster