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Re: [EXT] Re: [ARSCLIST] ARSC Facebook Group?

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Frank Strauss <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:28:47 -0400

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Hi David-I popped over to the ARSC Facebook page, and I agree, it looks
pretty active. The genie is out of the bottle. I have had a FB account for
about 10 years now. I didn't give a picture, my birth date is wrong, and
there is no other information. I also have no friends.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 1:01 PM David Glasser <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I hate to break it to everyone, but there already is an ARSC Facebook:
> created in 2009, and appears to be fairly active.
>
> David Glasser
> Chief Engineer
>
> 303-247-9035
>
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>     <http://www.airshowmastering.com/>
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>  <http://www.airshowmastering.com/>
> > On Sep 16, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > In reply to John Schroth's recent post re the
> > to-FaceBook-or-not-to-FaceBook question:
> >
> > What tender blossoms some of his respondents must be. The ARSC listserv
> is
> > a community of adults which shares a number of common interests. Why
> > wouldn't the questions or comments of a younger person or one "from a
> > different demographic" be greeted by anything other than courtesy? Yes,
> > some extraordinarily naïve questions have been received on the list, but
> I
> > have not noted hostility to that naïveté but rather a desire to answer
> > helpfully. Younger people should always be welcomed but not by a
> diminution
> > in the quality of our communication. I personally do not approve of
> > anything that dilutes the community. Therefore, I do not welcome the
> > Facebook suggestion.
> >
> > DDR
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 11:04 PM John Schroth <
> [log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Richard, Steve and the rest of the ARSC community.
> >>
> >> I have gotten quite a number of personal replies to my post stating that
> >> we should have a facebook page. These were people who were not
> >> comfortable with replying to my post on the ARSC list-serve for the
> >> whole community to see. Two examples:
> >>
> >> "THANK YOU, John! I think that's the whole point of having another
> >> platform for discussion-- to reach individuals of different demographics
> >> who might not yet know about us who might be interested in joining".
> >>
> >> "Thank you, thank you, and thank you"
> >>
> >> These people and all the other direct replies were from younger people
> >> who really felt that a facebook page was important. Most likely these
> >> people followed the ARSC list-serve but felt uncomfortable posting what
> >> they really felt about a facebook page, because they were new to the
> >> community, or followed our list-serve because of the valuable
> >> information they gained from it, but didn't feel comfortable making a
> >> comment because of all the long-time experienced participants to the
> >> list-serve that did not like facebook. They might have even been scared
> >> of getting criticized if they supported a facebook page publicly. I
> >> totally get that.
> >>
> >> Here's a perfect example that I shared with these people.....
> >>
> >> We have an exchange program here, where students studying at the George
> >> Eastman Museum's Film Preservation Program, work with my company part
> >> time. Most of them are interested in audio preservation as well. Most of
> >> them know of and follow AMIA. None to date have heard of ARSC when they
> >> first started working here. All of them use and follow facebook on a
> >> regular basis. If the George Eastman Museum's Selznick School facebook
> >> page "liked" the ARSC page, there's an immediate connection that all
> >> these students could make with ARSC. All of them since working at our
> >> place, now follow ARSC quietly.
> >>
> >> That's just an example.......
> >>
> >> Many who are getting to know ARSC - many of them younger people or
> >> people who are just starting out in audio preservation or collecting,
> >> may not be comfortable posting to the list-serve. It's daunting. Having
> >> a facebook page where these people could connect, make friends, share
> >> thoughts and ideas with each other directly, may spur them to becoming
> >> more involved with the ARSC organization.
> >>
> >> I joined ARSC and AMIA at about the same time. I was very lucky to have
> >> both ARSC and AMIA both come to Rochester, NY for their annual
> >> conference within a year of each other. I greatly respect AMIA but
> >> honestly, the people at the ARSC conference were much more open and
> >> welcoming. Steve Smolian - you asked me to join your table for both a
> >> lunch and a dinner without even knowing me. I will never forget that.
> >> You were warm, friendly and made me feel a part of the group. For people
> >> who are younger, an ARSC facebook page goes a long way to doing that
> >> same thing. Steve, I'm totally in your camp. I would rather live in the
> >> world that I grew up in, without all of this computer driven social
> >> media "crap". But this is the world we live in. You have the chance to
> >> become "facebook friends" with someone younger you can inspire. A
> >> portion of their world includes social media and they might never
> >> connect with you without something like facebook. You have the chance to
> >> effect young people you would never have the chance to connect with, if
> >> it wasn't for something like facebook. I can see someone new to ARSC
> >> becoming your facebook friend, then asking you a question directly
> >> because they were not confident enough to post the question for all to
> >> see on the ARSC list-serve. You could encourage them to post their
> >> question to the list-serve so that others could benefit by their
> >> question and explain that you have their back, in case someone made a
> >> derogatory comment on their post.
> >>
> >> In my world, I plan to be doing what I do for the next 10-15 years, then
> >> I'm done. I love teaching young people how to work with other media
> >> formats besides motion picture film. If students who work at my place
> >> can take with them the unique intricacies and challenges of preserving
> >> analog audio formats, they pick up skills and knowledge which gives them
> >> an appreciation of the medium. They might even play an important role in
> >> helping to preserve a piece of audio history in the future. I think this
> >> is one of the goals that ARSC is ultimately all about. I think that
> >> facebook might help bridge that gap between the "old school people" and
> >> future generations that we pass our knowledge on to.
> >>
> >>  From one of the members who loves the "old school" and is trying my
> >> best to assimilate with the "new school" as best I can.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >>
> >> John Schroth
> >>
> >> --
> >> Media Transfer Service, LLC
> >> High Quality Conversion Of:
> >> Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image
> >> Phone: 585-248-4908
> >> Web: www.mediatransferservice.com
> >> Find out what's new at MTS:
> >> http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/15/2018 8:15 PM, Richard L. Hess wrote:
> >>> Hi, Steve,
> >>>
> >>> I understand your concerns about Facebook, but, as I think I stated
> >>> previously, there is a whole group of people who, for whatever
> >>> reasons, aren't on the ARSC List. Hopefully some of us who do take
> >>> part in the ARSC Facebook presence, should it come to pass, will be
> >>> able to reach those people and perhaps bring them into the fold of
> >>> ARSCLIST as well for the more complete answer.
> >>>
> >>> It is organizational outreach, and I am as guilty as the next person
> >>> of limiting my organizational involvement based on attempting to
> >>> balance my priorities.
> >>>
> >>> I try to give in some way or the other to both ARSC and AES, as well
> >>> as the audio archiving community in general.
> >>>
> >>> Every pathway is imperfect, we must try to make use of pathways that
> >>> can reach the most people.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Richard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2018-09-15 7:47 PM, Steven Smolian wrote:
> >>>> Speaking (well,  typing) for myself, I fear the loss of the ARSC list
> >>>> participants' cumulated skills and knowledge if we allow a facebook
> >>>> presence with our imprimatur lacking some of these participants.
> >>>> Incomplete info in often leads to misinformation out.  Willfully
> >>>> ignoring the path to otherwise available information by taking an
> >>>> easier route that potentially avoids some of it- well, there are
> >>>> enough examples of that in daily life.  It's why we have  refereed
> >>>> journals.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Media Transfer Service, LLC
> >> High Quality Conversion Of:
> >> Video - Audio - Motion Picture - Still Image
> >> Phone: 585-248-4908
> >> Web: www.mediatransferservice.com
> >> Find out what's new at MTS:
> >> http://www.mediatransferservice.com/whats%20new.htm
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1006 Langer Way
> > Delray Beach, FL 33483
> > 561.265.2976
>


-- 
Frank B Strauss, DMD

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