I haven't had any experience with labels on CD-R or DVD-R discs (we have
never used them), but we have done inkjet printing on white surface
disks (Taiyo-Yuden and others) for at least 15 years or so, both for
archival work and run-of-the-mill client copies. To date, we have never
run into any issues with damage to the recordable substrate. We have
some disks in our collection that were done early on, and the ones that
I've played don't have any significant error problems.
I have, however, noticed bleeding of the color imaging on disks that
we've printed in color. This only seems to be an issue with color
printing-the black imprints seem to hold up quite nicely. We have never
used any lacquer or acrylic coatings on our discs, as I have not been
able to discern what the long-term impact might be. It's possible that a
surface coating would help stabilize the ink jet image, but I don't have
any direct experience with that.
We have only used the Primera printers. I don't have any experience with
the Canon or Epson printers.
*Scott D. Smith C.A.S.**
Chicago Audio Works, Inc.*
On 3/6/2019 12:36 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
>>>> As for the labels that were used at the insistence of our head of cataloging,
>>>> they were placed at the outside edge of the disc and were approximately 1/2 inch wide.
>>> I think most of us understood implicitly that the subject was paper stick-on printable
>>> labels the full size of the disc. There was never any question in my mind,
> There was a question in my mind, and I was correct. Not all of the
> questions were about the full labels.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] DVD rescue
> From: Karl Miller <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, March 05, 2019 1:39 pm
> To: [log in to unmask]
> My question refers to the use of printers on the top surface of CDR's,
> whether that surface is a white coating or, in the case of MAM-A Gold
> Archive discs, some of which do not have any additional coating. Is
> there any likelihood of those surfaces being compromised (long term)
> when printed on.
> As for the labels that were used at the insistence of our head of
> cataloging, they were placed at the outside edge of the disc and were
> approximately 1/2 inch wide. Not only did they ruin the balance of the
> disc, when people inserted them into CD changers, the labels would start
> to peel as the slots on some of those machines were very narrow.
> Occasionally the reflective surface of the disc would peel as well.
> Sometimes when the labels peeled, one could see that the glue from the
> label had left tiny pits in the reflective surface of the disc. The
> library bought some machine that supposedly would "re coat" the discs.
> In some instances they would play one or two more times.
> And while we are on the subject...is there any pen or marker that is
> "safe" for CDRs?
> Karl On Tuesday, March 5, 2019, 11:33:12 AM CST, Lou Judson
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I think most of us understood implicitly that the subject was paper
> stick-on printable labels the full size of the disc. There was never any
> question in my mind, and they were a hassle and a problem in the early
> CD/DVD burning years.
> When white printable CDs/DVDs came along and inexpoensive printers, it
> all got so much better!
> But then I am an audio engineer, not a librarian, so no confusion for
> Lou Judson
> Intuitive Audio
> On Mar 5, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Michael Biel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> it might be helpful when asking a question or stating your situation,
>> that you define and describe what you mean by "label". Do you mean the
>> paper label that covers the entire surface that used to be called the
>> Stomp On, or a small plastic or metal tag with a bar code or library ID,
>> or something else? Tags unbalanced the disc and should never have been
>> used anyway The only acceptable ones were small rings that only covered
>> the center before the data.
>> I am concerned with what Steve Smolian mentioned about white top discs
>> Do you mean the printable discs?
>> Mike Biel [log in to unmask]