Shaw conducted the Missa Solemnis 3 times at our school, in 1952, 1961 and 1975. Preparing the work for Toscanini in 1953 seems to have completely changed his views on the work. Tempi in 1952 are generally more deliberate. In 1961 everything is faster. He flies through the 2nd double fugue at the end of the Credo. I'm surprised that the chorus can sing at his tempo, but they do.
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There was an LP available of Missa Solemnus conducted by Robert Shaw. I
don't have it any longer, but I did play timpani for that work under Robert
Shaw one year at the Alaskan Music Festival in 1960 or 1961...with the
Anchorage Symphony Orchestra...expanded by key players from San Francisco
orchestra and the Minneapolis Symphony and Interlochen Wind Quintet.
The CD recording review is here:
As I recall the LP version was conducted quite fast; now how we did it in
Alaska. It seems it may have been a Columbia recording but can't remember.
Paul T. Jackson
Steilacoom, WA 98338
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On Sun, Jun 2, 2019, 10:17 AM Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask] wrote:
> Hi Clark,
> M29 is correct, confirmed by John Bolig's Victor Red Seal Discography,
> Vol. 2, and the 1936 edition of the Gramophone Shop Encyclopedia. I'm not
> aware that anyone reissued this recording on CD.
> Gary Galo
> Audio Engineer Emeritus
> The Crane School of Music
> SUNY at Potsdam, NY 13676
> "Great art presupposes the alert mind of the educated listener."
> Arnold Schoenberg
> "A true artist doesn't want to be admired, he wants to be believed."
> Igor Markevitch
> "If you design an audio system based on the premise that nothing is
> on that system nothing will be audible."
> G. Galo
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> Looking for a Victor album number. -- the Missa Solemnis, the old Barcelona
> recording. WERM has only the master numbers, although elsewhere I found
> mention of an M29. Can anyone confirm? Also does anyone know of a youtube
> or other online audio source? Even a CD? Thank you.