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Re: [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] Old vinyl on reel to reels

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Jennifer Vaughn <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:25:27 +0000

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With all due respect, people were flaunting copyright violations long before the Music Modernization Act was passed in 2018. Though legislation is not exactly scintillating reading, there is plenty of good information to be had on which recordings are being phased into the public domain and when. I highly recommend Eric Harbeson's article "Copyright and the Music Modernization Act" to understand the impact of the new legislation (https://scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1008&context=amrc_facpapers). Tim Brooks also wrote a clear summary of the new law on the ARSC blog.
While the MMA is not perfect, it's really a victory considering how difficult it is for non-rights holders to impact federal legislation. And ARSC certainly played a major role in this success!

tl;dr:

  *   For recordings first published before 1923, copyright protection ends after 12/31/2021.
  *   For recordings first published between 1923-1946, copyright protection ends 100 years after publication.
  *   For recordings first published between 1947-1956, copyright protection ends 110 years after publication.
  *   For all remaining recordings first fixed prior to February 15, 1972, the additional transition period shall end on February 15, 2067.

Best,
Jennifer
Radio Free Europe
________________________________
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] Old vinyl on reel to reels

We do, indeed, have the finest politicians money can buy.

Best,
Gary



-----Original Message-----
From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul T. Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 2:26 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] Old vinyl on reel to reels

MONEY BOUGHT CONGRESS TO PASS SUCH AN INCLUSIVE LAW.
Even though ARSC and MLA were trying to help create the new law, it failed
the public and public domain issues. AND now people don't care and they
just go ahead and break the copyright law at will. It no longer has any
meaning for the populace. Do whatever you want and see if anyone sues you.

Paul T. Jackson
Trescott Research
Steilacoom, WA 98338
[log in to unmask]
trescottresearch.com

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 11:20 AM Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask] wrote:

> Remember that, because copyrights on sound recordings are governed by
> state law, rather than Federal, the copyrights on most sound recordings in
> the US will not expire until 2067. Again, the copyright experts on this
> list are welcome to chime in here. But probably none of the commercial
> recordings copied onto those tapes are public domain throughout the entire
> US.
>
> Best,
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Curt Meyer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:47 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] Old vinyl on reel to reels
>
> Thanks Steve and Gary
> Thats good input. It looks like alot of them are old and the copyright has
> expired. The others I might just try to group and sell as blank tapes or
> donate if there is any interest.
> Good group of thoughtful folks on this list - nice to see how you help each
> other, thanks again.
>
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 5:35 AM Steve Smolian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > These are typically sold on Ebay as "used tape" with classical content,
> > etc.
> > and a scan of the box info.  This seems to  sastify Ebay.  How copyright
> > lawyers  may feel about this is another matter.
> >
> > Steve Smolian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Gary A. Galo
> > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 8:01 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] Old vinyl on reel to reels
> >
> > Hi Curt,
> >
> > It's ok to make tape copies of commercial recordings for one's personal
> > use.
> > But, this is probably copyrighted material and it may be illegal to sell
> > the
> > copies. There are others on this list who are more knowledgeable about
> > copyright laws on sound recordings, who I hope will offer their
> > perspective.
> > But, my initial reaction is that they cannot be legally sold.
> >
> > Best,
> > Gary
> >
> > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List
> > <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of cmeyer5555 <
> [log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2019 1:22:02 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ARSCLIST] Old vinyl on reel to reels
> >
> > Dear arsclist, your group seems very knowledgeable in this area so I am
> > hoping someone could help with a bit of advice.I inherited hundreds of
> reel
> > to reel tapes from a relative who was a quality engineer and amateur
> > audiophile. He meticulously dubbed, labeled and typed up the data from
> old
> > jazz, blues, big band and classical glass, 78s and 33s onto the r/rs
> along
> > with a few oneoffs or old radio. Also had 100 or so factory produced r/rs
> > and some unused r/rs. (And similar cassettes also) I am looking for any
> > advice on how to find someone who appreciates these genres and would be
> > interested in buying the lot, it's in the Los Angeles area. If anyone has
> > any advice on that I would appreciate it much.Thank you for any helpCurt
> > meyer [log in to unmask]
> >
>

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