There is also a book 'Look For the Dog' - you may find another supplier for
it but it is for sale on Amazon-Mickey Clark
From: 6295LARGE .
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2019 11:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] ARSCLIST] Re: Historic details on phonographs
THANK YOU, PAUL!
I work for the Recorded Sound Archives at Florida Atlantic University. (
I give tours to guests, students and faculty, and I've been asked a couple
times, the same questions as in my email.
We have a 1907 Victor Victrola, and 1926 Credenza with electric motor and
a1910 Edison cylinder player.
Sometimes a get a really interested person in a tour, and I'd like to be
able to answer more questions than I already can.
I will go to the website you recommended and hunt for the book you
PEACE!... and wisdom. ( I guess if there was wisdom, we'd have peace.)
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:42 PM Paul Stamler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 11/2/2019 12:54 AM, Francesco Martinelli wrote:
> > what a weird post
> Hey, one good way to learn things is to ask people who know about them.
> Mr. Roth is doing that. I'll try to answer a few questions below. Mr.
> Roth, if you're a student writing a term paper, you should investigate
> further using a search engine so you can cite your sources properly.
> Here's a bit for starters.
> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM 6295LARGE . <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> When were the magnetic and ceramic cartridges invented?
> You might want to look at the History section in this article:
> It's usually not kosher to cite Wikipedia as a source, but the article
> will include references, and those usually can be cited.
> >> Were orthophonic recordings using microphones?
> Properly speaking, there weren't really orthophonic recordings to my
> knowledge; at least, I don't think they were called that, though I may
> be wrong. In 1925 Victor introduced the Orthophonic Victrola phonograph,
> designed by engineers at Western Electric (part of the Bell System) and
> licensed to Victor; it used an acoustical horn, but it had much improved
> performance over previous models. At about the same time, Victor and
> Columbia introduced electrical recordings, using a system also invented
> at Western Electric. They used a condenser microphone (*also* invented
> at Western Electric, in 1916, and specified in the electrical recording
> patent) in the recording process.
> Columbia called their electrical recordings Viva-Tonal records; they had
> a "W" in the runout area, standing for Western Electric. Victor called
> them simply "electrical recordings", identified by the letters "VE" on
> the label.
> In the 1950s, when the high fidelity boom was underway, Victor (now RCA
> Victor) called their LP records "New Orthophonic", trading on the old
> Victrola phonograph name.
> >> When did phonographs start using speakers instead of horns?
> The loudspeaker was patented by Chester W. Rice and Edward V. Kellogg;
> they worked for General Electric, and applied for the patent in 1925.
> You might want to dig out a copy of Ronald Gelatt's book "The Fabulous
> Phonograph". It's out of print, but you could look in a library, or at
> www.abebooks.com . It's far from perfect, and it includes some material
> which is now classed as urban legend, but it's a decent introduction.
> Paul Stamler
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