The jacket notes for the Phorion LP claim that Barenboim had performed the concerto with Karajan and the Berlin Phil in 1964. That would be really interesting, but I've never heard of a recording existing.
Gary
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I was not aware of any cuts in the Barenboim/Mehta performance. Many decades ago I listened to it and wrote the timings down on the jacket: 34 minutes for side 1 and 31 minutes for side 2. This is within one minute of Furtwängler's own performance with Edwin Fischer from 1939. David Lively and Alfred Walter on Marco Polo get through it in 62:33 (According to the timing on Amazon - I don’t own this one). Erik Then-Bergh and Rafael Kubelik on Tahra are at 63:19. So, I don’t know where the cuts would be. I own a miniature score to WF's Second Symphony, but I've never seen a score to the Piano Concerto.
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Gary
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Aaron, et al
I don't know the origin of the cuts...didn't even know there were any. However, related to all of this, when I mentioned the Furtwängler on another list I added that I had a broadcast of the work with Badura Skoda, ORF and Zagrosek. My tape says it is the original version. Would anyone know if indeed it is the original version. I don't know the piece, but am in the process of digitizing my tape.
Karl
On Monday, March 30, 2020, 02:49:10 PM CDT, Aaron Z. Snyder <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Since the Furtwängler/Barenboim/Mehta Concerto has been mentioned, I might as well repeat a long-standing question: does anyone know the origin of the cuts in this performance?
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 14:04, Gary A. Galo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Thanks, Karl. Being a Steinberg fan, I do care! So, they bootlegged a commercial RCA Victor LP for the cello concerto. I'm surprised they got away with it.
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> I was the one who mention the Furtwangler Piano Concerto on LP 9001, last week. I bought it back in the 1970s, probably not long after it was released. I believe I purchased it at Sam Goody's in Sunrise Mall in Massapequa, NY. Ah, the good old days!
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> Gary
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> Not that anyone cares...I was able to confirm that the Symphonic Serenade was the Pittsburgh SO under Steinberg on the 30th of December 1955. It was off a quarter tone. The Cello Concerto was dubbed from the Gerhardt RCA disc...but it was an eighth tone flat. The Much Ado about Nothing was not the Korngold recording. I could not verify any performers, perhaps it was correctly marked.
> It might have been mentioned but Phorion LP 9001 was the Furtwangler Piano Concerto with Barenboim, Mehta and the LA Phil, a broadcast.
> Karl
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