“Anti-Anti-Harassment...” Doesn’t that mean pro-harassment? Asking for a friend.
Gerald Seligman
> On Jul 20, 2020, at 7:13 AM, Railroads On Parade <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From Guy Walker
> Recently I found a home made acetate of a Nazi anthemn from a collection of
> records I bought out of Long Island that were hand picked and purchased
> from countries that the 3rd Reich had infiltrated before the end of the
> war. These kinds of finds are not kids stuff to be considered lightly. I
> feel the same way about what once once called *race records.*
> In Kurt's letter he says: ARSC should be focused on issues pertaining to
> recorded sound and leave gender politics, political correctness and
> offense-policing alone.
> If we were collecting photography I suspect there wouldn't be a question
> about pictures of nude children or lynchings.
> Scientists are suggesting we all consider ourselves carriers of Covid, that
> way we get a mindset for prevention and healing, so, I think that there's a
> lot of records out there that could be considered kinda sick but historical
> documents that should be treated with grave seriousness and not toys to be
> traded or commodified.
>
>
>
>
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 at 02:33, Alex McGehee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of a Thanksgiving Day uncle.
>>
>> Seriously, not sure about, "Whether a person rises or falls in my opinion
>> of them as an individual depends *entirely* [emphasis added] on their
>> actions, not in their prejudices or lack thereof." So if a colleague pulls
>> you aside at an ARSC conference, and in the course of your conversation
>> tells you how intensely he hates Jewish people (and probably expresses that
>> in quite a repugnant way) it's just his prejudice, not an action, your
>> opinion doesn't seriously decline regarding him? Hey, it's just his
>> prejudice. Now if he destroys an old Klezmer recording, well now that's an
>> entirely different matter.
>> Are you really saying such prejudice doesn't cause your opinion of a person
>> to change? It certainly changed my ill-informed opinion of the person whose
>> letter was published in our recent bulletin.
>> I managed a newsroom covering the Aryan nation people then living in North
>> Idaho. We wore bullet-proof vests on scene for their Independence Day fest
>> in beautiful downtown Coeur d'Alene. All those ugly words, but then we had
>> enough sense (and fear) to understand the actions that so often follow such
>> bile. Words count. I hope you understand them as actions too. And in regard
>> to prejudice, none of us fall into your category of, "or lack thereof."
>> Alex
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 12:52 AM Malcolm <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> God’s hooks!
>>>
>>> I was puzzled when the statements that Kurt just replied to appeared in
>>> my email awhile back. Puzzled, somewhat disturbed, and a bit
>>> apprehensive, I decided to wait and see what developed.
>>>
>>> I have just received the Summer 2020 issue of the ARSC Newsletter with
>>> Kurt’s letter in it. I have just read that but have still not gotten to
>>> the rest of the newsletter. Judging by the member response onlist so far
>>> there are/were more than a few of us awaiting said developments.
>>>
>>> Thanks for breaching the dam, Kurt. I may or may not agree with your
>>> ideas but I’m glad you voiced them.
>>>
>>> Bottom line? I feel that delineating the obvious and making it policy
>>> may be a step in the wrong direction. In my experience we ARSC members
>>> are not a bigoted lot. Or a sexist lot. Or an anything else lot except a
>>> lot of record collectors, engineers, discographers, historians, etc.,
>>> all of whom have sometimes wide differences but all of which have one
>>> thing in common. Music and recorded media. All the rest of the hoo-rah
>>> is unnecessary.
>>>
>>> Who is ARSC attempting to impress? Are we going to suffer a declining
>>> membership - which has been suggested - because we have no written
>>> policy on such matters? Is an attempt to be politically correct in print
>>> going to win the hearts of those out there who are not ARSC members and
>>> gather them into the fold? I think not. What we do we may consider as
>>> enlightened self-interest and requires no further justification.
>>>
>>> You may think of me as a dotty uncle, an in-law or whatever you choose.
>>> That’s okay with me. But I cannot help but note that there are a whole
>>> batch of others like me in ARSC. I celebrate our diversity. Whether a
>>> person rises or falls in my opinion of them as an individual depends
>>> entirely on their actions, not in their prejudices or lack thereof.
>>>
>>> In my not-so humble opinion ARSC putting this line of thinking on paper
>>> and making it part of our /raison d’etre/ is absolutely unnecessary.
>>>
>>> That’s it from me.
>>>
>>> Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Chet?
>>>
>>> Malcolm Rockwell
>>>
>>>
>>> *******
>>>
>>> On 7/19/2020 2:24 PM, Corey Bailey wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> In the last newsletter, there was an open letter to the ARSC
>>>> membership titled "Letters to the Editor" by Kurt Nauck.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone care to comment on that letter?
>>>>
>>>> ~CB
>>>>
>>>> Corey Bailey Audio Engineering
>>>> www.baileyzone.net
>>>
>>
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