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Re: The LP's Birthday

From:

Jerzy Dziuba <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:07 +0200

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Dear Mr Walker,

Any chance to see your gramophone?

Best regards

Jurek Dziuba



W dniu 2020-10-02 o 14:36, Railroads On Parade pisze:
> Dear sir,
>
> This is the first I've noted the posting here as a message.  Maybe others
> missed it as well?  I do know one thing, on several occasions, simple
> questions I've asked here about gramophones go unheeded. Silence.  For
> instance, the other day I left a link to a youtube video of a gramophone I
> constructed.  Although I received no recognition, more than fifty people
> watched the video.
>
> Yours,
>
> Guy Walker
>
> On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 08:25, Jerzy Dziuba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Dear All Interested In The History Of Longplay,
>>
>> Unfortunately, I have not noted any reaction to my mail of 27.04.2020.
>> Well, I just hope it was a kind of general silent aproval...
>> I'd like to recommend to you now my updated www.historyoflongplay.com.
>> One can learn there, when and what exactly was presented in Hotel
>> Waldorf-Astoria, by Columbia, in June 1948. You will find there the list
>> of 101 LPs ex Waldorf-Astoria and also indexes of all respective
>> composers and artists registered on these 101 LPs.
>> On the other hand, you will find there also a specific look at UK and US
>> album charts - from their beginnings in mid fifties up to 30.06.2020.
>> There are all time lists of artists and albums on UK and US album
>> charts. Moreover, if you were not UK, resp. US citizen, you could look
>> also on my own all time lists basing on UK, mainly, with some American
>> correction. My nation is not English speaking one [in general, I mean].
>> So, this fact has provoked me to create such a mixture of the both most
>> important charts. All the before mentioned all time lists are based on a
>> countable criterion - weeks on chart. So, they are not subjective ones.
>> Any chance for your comments?
>> Best regards
>> Jurek Dziuba
>>
>> P.S. 1/   Mr Rooney, I believe you could really consider my
>> www.historyoflongplay as a nice amendment to your article "How the LP
>> Was Born". You mention 101 LPs ex Waldorf-Astoria, I am adding this
>> list's content. You say Friday, 21.06.1948 is the LP's birthday, I say
>> Friday, yes, but the correct date is 18.06.1948 etc.
>> 2/   Mr Sohn, thank you for your mail of 23.04.2020. I've written to the
>> Museum, however, without any reaction.
>> 3/   Mr Long, thanks again for your support from 24.04.2020.
>>
>>
>>
>> W dniu 2020-04-27 o 13:40, Jerzy Dziuba pisze:
>>> Dear Mr Rooney,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Mr Long I could read your fantastic article from ICRC! In
>>> fact, more than 30 years ago I was engaged in some private
>>> investigation regarding 1st LP ever. At that time the best sources of
>>> information were [for me] The Guiness Book of Recorded Sound and The
>>> Library of Congress. OK, you will find below my THANKS, small
>>> AMENDMENTS, one CORRECTION and the final CONCLUSION.
>>> _
>>> THANKS_:   Your article is full of details totally unknown to me. I
>>> guess you based mainly on Columbia / Sony archives. In my case, there
>>> was no Columbia's reaction to my letters. It was almost the same with
>>> Mr Robert Dearling, author of Guiness Book. He received from Columbia
>>> just a contact to their retired archivist [who moved to England]. And
>>> the respective chapter of Guiness Book based on his notes and memory.
>>> So, thank you very very much for your rich detailed and documented LP
>>> story in ICRC!
>>> _
>>> AMENDMENTS_:   You mention about first Columbia's LP catalogue from
>>> September 1948. I received from Library of Congress a copy of the
>>> folded leafleat incl. list of 69 LPs with classical music. In
>>> Waldorf-Astoria there were presented 101 LPs incl. 70 "classical" LPs.
>>> So, I guess this leaflet without date was printed for conference in
>>> Waldorf-Astoria. There is also Columbia's Disc Digest from July 1948
>>> incl. all 70 classical LPs ex Waldorf-Astoria. Moreover, Billboard
>>> printed the initial Columbia's LP catalogue on 3.07.1948 incl. 70 LPs
>>> with classical music, 20 LPs with light classic and 11 LPs with pop
>>> music.
>>> _
>>> CORRECTION:_  You said about Waldorf-Astoria conference "It was a warm
>>> Friday Afternoon, June 21st...". This cannot be correct as that
>>> week-end's Friday was 18th June. And 21.06.1948 was Monday... So, what
>>> is correct? When the LP was born? The New York Times of 21.06.1948
>>> [Monday] informs about some week-end's Columbia conference in New
>>> York. And Billboard of 26.06.1948 [Saturday] informs about the press
>>> presentation of Columbia on 18.06.1948 [Friday] in New York.
>>> _
>>> CONCLUSION_:   I believe in such a situation we all should agree that
>>> _the LP's birthday is 18th June 1948.
>>>
>>> _Mr Rooney, I will appreciate your comment. And, obviously, comments
>>> of anybody else interested will be appreciated, too!_
>>>
>>> _Best regards_
>>>
>>> _Jurek Dziuba
>>> www.historyoflongplay.com

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