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Re: VRII a necessary option

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Tim Gillett <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Sun, 31 Jan 2021 18:32:14 +1100

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Mickey,  the 45 deg aligned coils are downstream of any stylus and
groove mistracking issues, so the result should  be the same whether
a mono cart or a stereo cart summed to mono in post is used.

 In a stereo cart, either the vertical or the lateral information can
be isolated later. In a mono cart, only the lateral info is outputted.
That's my understanding anyway.

 If a disc was buckled and caused watery sound I suspect it would be
equally watery regardless of whether a mono or a summed stereo cart. 
But happy to be proved wrong on this. I'm more a magnetic tape guy.

Tim.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List"
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Sent:Sat, 30 Jan 2021 21:52:46 -0800
Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option

Tim - The VRII is a true mono cartridge. The issue with summing from
a
stereo cartridge if there is any vertical information there is
introduced
makes a sound like under water. If the surface is totally flat then
the
stereo cart works fine most of the time. -Mickey

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gillett
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:39 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option

Is the VR II a mono cart? If so, what is the difference between
a mono cart, and a stereo cart summed to mono in the DAW?

Cheers Tim.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List"
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Sent:Sat, 30 Jan 2021 16:03:42 -0800
Subject:Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option

Ben- The mottled surface you can see on laminated discs is the
problem.
Using a stereo cartridge doesn't work so well if you have any
vertical
information.
Something I have tried with the VRII is have the stylus a little
lower -
meaning that it doesn't have to be between the poles but just below
them.
It reduces the output a little if it is too much for a direct
connection to
the phono on an amplifier. I use a Heathkit WA P-2 preamp tube amp so
it
accepts the higher input level.
I wonder if an assembly could be made with a 3D printer for the
GE.-Mickey

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Roth-Aroni
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:29 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] VRII a necessary option

Hi Mickey

Great idea!

I've also noticed that certain records sound terrible when played
with a
stereo cartridge no matter which stylus I use.
Then I tried the VRii and the RPJ-047 which also sounded better. The
VRII
usually has a 2.5 mil and the RPJ-047 has a 3 mil.
Some old Columbia records give a slight warped sound with a stereo
cartridge, but not with either GE cartridcge.

Regards,
Ben

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:48 PM Mickey Clark <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hi-Benjamin Roth-Aroni I am finding that some records played with a
stereo
> cartridge are really noisy. When I try the same record with same
size
> stylus
> on the VRII the record tracks perfectly. I've run into this
multiple
> times
> and the VRII is my go-to for difficult records.
> I would like to suggest that a manufacturer re-think the stylus for
this
> cartridge and modernize it. A reliable self centering would be an
> advantage.
> The cartridges will still work a hundred years from now - I'd like
to see
> a
> modernized stylus for this amazing cartridge. - Mickey Clark
>
>
> Mickey Clark
> 710 Westminster Avenue West
> Penticton BC
> Canada
> 250-462-7881
> V2A 1K8
> http://mcproductions.ca
> 1-250-462-7881
>

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