Hello  John Gledhill -You can find the folder on the Ipod where the audio is 
kept with the Itunes program closed.  The metadata is encrypted and can be 
viewed by right clicking one of the files, select properties, and then 
details.

I would suggest  Using your file browser and find the folder Ipod_control 
and then music.
You could right click the music folder and then copy and paste to your 
desktop.
The following link explains how to do it.  Good Luck-Mickey

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-10141



Mickey Clark
710 Westminster Avenue West
Penticton BC
Canada
250-462-7881
V2A 1K8
http://mcproductions.ca
1-250-462-7881

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stewart Gooderman
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2021 12:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] Apple I-pad question

Do I sound a bit naive for suggesting a consultation with an Apple genius?

DrG


> On Nov 1, 2021, at 7:33 AM, John Gledhill <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Apple I-pad question
>
> I apologize for perhaps the wrong forum however, I am hoping someone who 
> knows the answer can pass me his or her number and I will call offline.
>
>
>
> About 12 year ago I digitized a few hundred cassette tapes and records for 
> a gentleman after making him aware of online sources and yes he wanted his 
> cassettes / records digitized.
>
> Kept copies of all of the original 16 bit files and generated ACC or m4v 
> and loaded the files to one of those old brick ipods with a 75 Gig HD 
> (audio takes 45 gig) and a sleek nano device
>
> I used I-tunes at the time and was dismayed by the way the ipods messed up 
> (hashed, and hacked up the file names).
>
> Fast-forward a decade and more. Customer who is old is still alive and 
> very active. He has a good sense of humour. He brought me his old ipods 
> and a brand new ipad and wants the audio loaded to the ipad and eventually 
> his iphone 13.
>
> Should be a no brainer. Except now we have cloud storage. He already has 
> other music and albums on his ipad (and they don’t show up when connected 
> to a pc with itunes). I guess I would have to sign in to his account?
>
> My son also warned me about something called “syncing” where Apple decides 
> to obliterate material on your device if you load material from a local 
> drive. I told him there is no way a company could do this and be taken 
> seriously let along convince people to buy their product.
>
> Silly me. Even when I turn off automatic syncing in itunes and think about 
> moving audio to the I-pad I see warning about only being able to be sync’d 
> to one source. I stop at this point, as the material already on the ipad 
> is not mine to erase.
>
> Also worrisome was a pop-up about “trusted device” and only being allowed 
> 5. I have used up two for him so far.
>
>
> A google search leads me to a couple of software applications that claim 
> to allow me to add music to the ipad without erasing what is already 
> there.
>
> I wonder.
>
> What computer OS would ever expect you to buy a separate programme to 
> simply copy a file. What am I missing?
>
> Even if I succeed, will this gentleman undo everything next time he 
> accesses music on-line?
>
> I really do not want to load 45 Gig to some cloud server so he can sync to 
> that. This just seems ridiculous when the material is already on a local 
> drive..
>
> Ques) If I did put 45G on the icloud from a PC and used this load his ipad 
> then what happens when he signs onto itunes from his iphone13 on a 
> cellular network. Does he unwittingly have 45G of cellular network traffic 
> arriving?
>
> If anyone knows of a way to simply place audio files on an ipad (from a 
> PC) so they will stay there, be playable, and will not erase what is 
> already present then please pass me your telephone number.
>
> P.S. The old brick of an ipod he had with the older battery technology and 
> a hard drive was recharged and still works a week later.
>
> The very sleek nano ipod he passed me was charged for a day and last 2 ½ 
> min and now won’t recharge. Improved design for who’s benefit. And no, I 
> am not advocating carrying gramophones in backpacks.
>
> -- 
> John Gledhill
> BIT WORKS Inc.
> 905 881 2733
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> www.bitworks.org