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Re: Apple I-pad question

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Lou Judson <[log in to unmask]>

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Association for Recorded Sound Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 1 Nov 2021 09:51:10 -0700

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There is an easy solution for this, but it does not involve putting
audio files on an iPad (not I-pad). Apple has made that nearly
impossible (and I am a Mac user only!)

I collected a lot of music in iTunes and was often frustrated at how
difficult it is to find a selection with the click-wheel design. Took
forever! 

Lately I have been happily using my iPhone for this, by putting the
audio on Dropbox (or any other cloud storage of your choice) and using
the dropbox app to listen from the cloud. You have to have an account
and the app, and pretty much unlimited data access on your phone, but it
works wonderfully, sounds great, and is easily searchable, no more
clicking the wheel. 

I also use Amazon Music HD and can access practically any tune at any
time in seconds. 

I took a drive from SF to Seattle soon after I had set this up, and had
nonstop music all the way, except for in one tunnel. 

I'm 71 and thought iTunes and iPod were going to be the last music
player I'd ever need. Now it is just the phone and the cloud! 

<L>

Lou Judson 
Intuitive Audio 
415-883-2689 

On 2021-11-01 08:36, John Haley wrote:

> Funny thing.  Somebody recently just said to me "Oh I hear you're an audio
> person..."  and had the same problem.  She had a large archive of I-Tunes
> on her I-Pod that she wants to just put on her I-Pad.  Sounds easy, right?
> Both Apple devices.  As she explained, not easy at all.  I was not able to
> help.  I suggested first looking for a You-Tube how-to on it, and otherwise
> see if she could load all of the files onto a thumb drive or SD card, and
> just transfer the files.  It ought to be that simple, right?  Obviously, it
> isn't.  But there has to be a way.  I was never into lossy formats and now
> I am grateful for that.
> 
> She also asked what device should she use to listen to music when she goes
> out for a walk or a jog, and I said her cellphone.  I don't do that either,
> so I'm not much help.  I have to assume that I-Pods are truly obsolete by
> now.  It's like who buys small digital cameras now that we cam just use our
> phones?  Remember Walkmans and MP3 players?  All gone.
> 
> Best,
> John Haley
> 
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:36 AM John Gledhill <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Apple I-pad question
>> 
>> I apologize for perhaps the wrong forum however, I am hoping someone who
>> knows the answer can pass me his or her number and I will call offline.
>> 
>> About 12 year ago I digitized a few hundred cassette tapes and records
>> for a gentleman after making him aware of online sources and yes he
>> wanted his cassettes / records digitized.
>> 
>> Kept copies of all of the original 16 bit files and generated ACC or m4v
>> and loaded the files to one of those old brick ipods with a 75 Gig HD
>> (audio takes 45 gig) and a sleek nano device
>> 
>> I used I-tunes at the time and was dismayed by the way the ipods messed
>> up (hashed, and hacked up the file names).
>> 
>> Fast-forward a decade and more. Customer who is old is still alive and
>> very active. He has a good sense of humour. He brought me his old ipods
>> and a brand new ipad and wants the audio loaded to the ipad and
>> eventually his iphone 13.
>> 
>> Should be a no brainer. Except now we have cloud storage. He already has
>> other music and albums on his ipad (and they don't show up when
>> connected to a pc with itunes). I guess I would have to sign in to his
>> account?
>> 
>> My son also warned me about something called "syncing" where Apple
>> decides to obliterate material on your device if you load material from
>> a local drive. I told him there is no way a company could do this and be
>> taken seriously let along convince people to buy their product.
>> 
>> Silly me. Even when I turn off automatic syncing in itunes and think
>> about moving audio to the I-pad I see warning about only being able to
>> be sync'd to one source. I stop at this point, as the material already
>> on the ipad is not mine to erase.
>> 
>> Also worrisome was a pop-up about "trusted device" and only being
>> allowed 5. I have used up two for him so far.
>> 
>> A google search leads me to a couple of software applications that claim
>> to allow me to add music to the ipad without erasing what is already there.
>> 
>> I wonder.
>> 
>> What computer OS would ever expect you to buy a separate programme to
>> simply copy a file. What am I missing?
>> 
>> Even if I succeed, will this gentleman undo everything next time he
>> accesses music on-line?
>> 
>> I really do not want to load 45 Gig to some cloud server so he can sync
>> to that. This just seems ridiculous when the material is already on a
>> local drive..
>> 
>> Ques) If I did put 45G on the icloud from a PC and used this load his
>> ipad then what happens when he signs onto itunes from his iphone13 on a
>> cellular network. Does he unwittingly have 45G of cellular network
>> traffic arriving?
>> 
>> If anyone knows of a way to simply place audio files on an ipad (from a
>> PC) so they will stay there, be playable, and will not erase what is
>> already present then please pass me your telephone number.
>> 
>> P.S. The old brick of an ipod he had with the older battery technology
>> and a hard drive was recharged and still works a week later.
>> 
>> The very sleek nano ipod he passed me was charged for a day and last 2 ½
>> min and now won't recharge. Improved design for who's benefit. And no, I
>> am not advocating carrying gramophones in backpacks.
>> 
>> --
>> John Gledhill
>> BIT WORKS Inc.
>> 905 881 2733
>> [log in to unmask]
>> www.bitworks.org [1]
>> <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/ceeed89eb06404eac5b1ee2ac5b8ab31bfa7cf14?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitworks.org&userId=6890612&signature=50b5e883e0992765>
 

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