DDR
I just read the email I sent to a Columbia University graduate and they
understood completely.
GW

On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 15:59, Dennis Rooney <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I am not sure what you mean by "bookish comprehensive resolve" but with
> respect to Columbia vs. Victor:
>
> Munves's observation referred to production at the two labels. Until 1939,
> when it was purchased by CBS, the Columbia Phonograph Co. had a rather high
> quality product that didn't sell as well as Victor. Immediately following
> the sale, the plating in the three-step metalwork of post-1939 Columbias
> was cheapened and the introduction of mastering on 33-1/3rpm acetate
> lacquer blanks made the subsequent development of a long-playing record
> possible in 1947-48, but the dubbing of every approved take from slow speed
> to 78rpm master resulted in an inferior sounding product, and Columbia 78s
> from U, S. metals all sounded inferior until the format was abandoned in
> 1952. Matrices of European manufacture, however, did not have this problem.
>
> Victor's "gold" then "white gold" pressings exhibit a similar decline in
> manufactured quality which, fortunately, was limited to pressing quality,
> particularly the "wartime" pressings. Vinylite was introduced into the RCA
> biscuit immediately after WW2 and their discs from that period are quieter,
> but are frequently bad sounding due to the label's mistaken use of audio
> limiting in the mastering process.
>
> Columbia's success with the Lp and its marketing strategy led to a rapid
> improvement in the label's sales and production quality. Hence, the second
> part of Peter Munves's observation.
>
> Ciao,
>
> DDR
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 6:36 AM Railroads On Parade <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Diehl,
> > What is the compositional makeup of post war grunge?  I'm pretty familiar
> > with what Carnegie did with the RCA Z recordings, but I've never seen
> > anybody breakdown what was being watered down and/or what was being added
> > or subtracted.
> > The RCA exec R. Peter Munves once told me that Columbia was not so good,
> > and then it was good, then it was not so good and RCA was better here
> than
> > there, but I have never gotten any more than that.  I can see and feel
> the
> > difference between Columbia gold band and grey, I can hear differences in
> > HMV pressings and Columbia made in France, I am just at a dead end in any
> > bookish comprehensive resolve.
> > GW
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 21:45, David Diehl <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > The Haven sessions were re-released on Chronological Classics 1253.
> They
> > > sound pretty clean to me, maybe dubs of test pressings but not typical
> > > post-war 78 grunge.
> > >
> > >  David Diehl
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mickey Clark <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2022 7:49 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [ARSCLIST] acetate and vinylite
> > >
> > > Hi Guy - I think it would be worth your while to try a transfer with a
> > > VRII
> > > cartridge. Some records that sound terrible with a stereo cartridge can
> > > sound flawless with a true mono cart-Mickey Clark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Railroads On Parade
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 2:08 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [ARSCLIST] acetate and vinylite
> > >
> > > After searching around for a good sounding Bill De Arango/Ben Webster
> 78
> > > Mr.Brim and Dark Corners it occurred to me that after listening to one
> on
> > > youtube as rough sounding as mine, and the only transcription I have
> been
> > > able to find, a better transcription might not exist.  I don't see the
> > > recordings were ever transferred (please prove me wrong) but what also
> > came
> > > to mind is, the different formulas (I assume) of acetates, shellacs and
> > > vinylite and any documentation of what they were and who used them and
> > > when?
> > > My copy and the one on youtube both appear to the eye as new, but sound
> > as
> > > if they are not.  It simply comes to mind that maybe the mix of the
> stuff
> > > used to press the disc was inferior?
> > > Guy Walker
> > >
> >
>
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