Hi David,
Wasn't South Pacific 1949?
Best,
Gary
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In Oct. of 1943 Decca suddenly settled with the A.F.M. in order to get "South Pacific" in stores for the Christmas buying season. To counter this, RCA announced to would repress over 200 popular titles from the Victor & Bluebird catalogs. A lot of dubs were made to generate new metal parts quickly and quality control suffered. Small differences in playing times between the originals and the dubs wouldn't be at all surprising given wartime shortages of replacement parts and the time crunch.
David Diehl
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Dylan Utz and Gary Galo - Another thing - the labels have exactly the same design but different ink, so the copies are near to the same time. I also noticed that the serial is outside the eccentric on one and within the eccentric 180 degrees opposite on the other.-Mickey
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Hi Micky,
I assume that by pitch of grooves, you mean the number of lines per inch of recorded surface. In that case, yes, the groove pitch may very well be different on a dubbing than it was on the original, particularly if the dubbing was made to change the recording level, or to change the run-in or run-out space. But, changing the groove pitch does not change the recording/playback speed of the original, hence it will not change the total timing of the recording. As long as the playback and recording turntables are running at the same speed, the speed and consequently the musical pitch of the original will be preserved when they are both played at the same speed.
I hope I have understood your question correctly.
Best,
Gary
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Hello- I have two different issues of a 1942 Carson Robison record Old Grey Mare/ I’m Going back on Bluebird 30-0808.
One I believe to be an earlier issue with a slightly different label – brighter gold etc.
In DAHR, takes 1 of both songs are issued but take 1A are listed as unprocessed.
Both sides of the second, more faded looking labeled record are longer in duration than the first record and after recording at this stage the files of the tracks of the second record are larger than the first.
I’m assuming that I have different takes.
This raises a question – if a record such as this is dubbed by the original producer, would the pitch of the grooves be the same standard spacing or could a different pitch be used?
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