My only evidence that it is validating has been that when I tried
(admittedly in the IE 5 beta) to display an xml file, it would give me an
error message about a bad character at the end one of the dtd files.



Michael

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> From:         Pete Johnston[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Wednesday, March 24, 1999 11:29 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list EAD
> Subject:      Re: IE5.0 - XML sans plugin
>
> > Being able to serve up directly to the
> > browser was the fulfillment of the promise for so long.
>
> Indeed. Congratulations on getting it out there!
>
> Your example does raises a question in my mind, however, but part of
> the problem may be a misunderstanding on my part!
>
> >  Finally, I must admit to some sloppiness.  I used the
> > EAD1.0 dtd with beta documents
>
> In this case, I'm a bit confused as to what is going on here.
>
> In my experience of using the beta test version of IE5, if one
> pointed an XML document at a DTD (which isn't mandatory in XML - you
> can send a "well-formed" doc with no DOCTYPE statement and therefore
> no DTD) then the XML parser in IE5 validated the document against the
> DTD and produced an error message if it failed to validate. i.e. it
> didn't get as far as producing the "built-in stylesheet" display
> which you describe.
>
> Now then, in your case, there is a DOCTYPE and a DTD, but we know
> that the (EAD beta conforming) document is _invalid_ as far as the
> supplied (version 1.0) DTD is concerned (e.g. the document contains a
> <FINDAID> element, and there is markup in a mixture of upper and
> lower case - XML is case-sensitive.)
>
> So I rather expected IE5 (I'm now using the new release 5.0 proper)
> to choke... but no! I've just tried it and up comes the built-in
> styled display with no validation errors.
>
> This implies to me that IE5 is not validating the document against
> the DTD... which firstly suggests that the document could equally
> well be sent as a well-formed document (without DOCTYPE etc)
>
> But the real question which occurs to me, I suppose,  is_why_ IE5 is
> not validating and I can't see the answer to that immediately.
>
> Am I wrong in expecting IE5 to look for the DTD and then validate
> the document on the client side? I've got used to seeing IE5 validate
> but that has been primarily with documents from my local disk and
> this has set me wondering whether I have ever seen it validate a
> document from a remote server.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pete
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