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Lynn,

Here in New York, we have three government jurisdictions: counties, towns (subdivisions of counties), and incorporated villages (usually smaller pieces of towns).  For various reasons groups of people who live near each other don't always choose to form a village, but they may have a name for the place they live.  They are single place names, representing single geographic areas. They often have post offices, but usually nothing else.  There really is no governmental jurisdiction involved.  No government body that represents that named area.  It is literally, just a named area.  They are unincorporated parts of larger incorporated towns (which clearly are established as names.)

How should we establish these places?  Through NACO or SACO?  We'll be using them as subjects. Because there are no governments that could act as authors etc., we now think they should be established through SACO.  But  places like this that are currently established are generally in NAF as name headings.  (Examples: Delmar (N.Y.), Hartsdale (N.Y.), Loudonville (N.Y.)



  
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John,
    Jurisdictional status is the primary difference between geographic
name and subject headings.  Jurisdictions at any level are established
as name headings.  Geographic features, regions, and collective names
for groups of jurisdictions are established as subject headings.
Lynn

Lynn M. El-Hoshy
Senior Cataloging Policy Specialist
Cataloging Policy and Support Office
Library of Congress
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Ian S. Duckor
New York State Library
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Thanks.  I'll submit it.  Just curious, what makes this SACO rather
than NACO?
Where does it fit in the division of the world?


On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Lynn M El Hoshy wrote:

> John,
>      I hope that you were planning to make a SACO proposal.  A
heading
> naming a group of cities collectively would be a geographic subject
> heading.  An example is Hamptons (N.Y.) (sh85058600).  It would need
> geographic qualifiers for both states in which the cities are
located.
>
> Lynn M. El-Hoshy
> Senior Cataloging Policy Specialist
> Cataloging Policy and Support Office
> Library of Congress
> 101 Independence Avenue, SE
> Washington, DC 20540-4305
> Telephone:  202-707-5862
> Fax: 202-707-6629
> Email:  [log in to unmask]