At 04:46 PM 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Why does this seem like we're reinventing the wheel? We know there was a >good reason for defining a MARC subelement for subtitle >information. The same reasoning was applied when developing the >ISBDs. It's not surprising that this argument is coming up again in a >MODS context, but it's making me wonder why we bothered with MODS if >people are going to enhance it to the point where it is as rich (and >complex) as MARC. It's a somewhat backhanded compliment to MARC >really. Maybe MARC's richness isn't such a bad thing, eh? Randy, I suspect that part of our "groping in the dark" here has to do with the fact that we haven't really settled on what the purpose of MODS is. I also think that it isn't the richness of MARC that people object to, it's the parts of it that are detailed but not useful. MARC and MODS are just data structures. What should be determining those structures is the data that we intend to carry. There's a big difference if we are carrying data that results from library cataloging, or if we are carrying data that has some other origins. Library cataloging data will have a certain level of detail, some amount of which is deemed useful in our environment. If instead MODS will be used to carry data that, for example, originates in the HTML of bookstore pages, then it will have less of that richness and the data structure will not need some of the features of the library cataloging record. What I am beginning to see here, mainly arising out of the postings by Yves (thank you, Yves!), is that MODS may be a good format to unite varieties of library cataloging that have considerable similarities but enough differences that they cannot reside in the same systems. It may also be able to carry bibliographic data that is somewhat less rich than library cataloging but considerably more rich than something like Dublin Core. For the moment, however, I think we will achieve more if we have a clear goal for MODS (i.e. carrier for library cataloging) than if we simply throw it out there and say "whatever." ---------------------------------------------- Karen Coyle [log in to unmask] http://www.kcoyle.net ----------------------------------------------