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I support Havard's proposed text and also Michael's request for specific notification to the IETF list. --Glenn Glenn Patton Director, WorldCat Content Management OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc. 6565 Frantz Rd. Dublin OH 43017-3395 Phone: +1.800.848.5878, ext. 6371 or +1.614.764.6371 Fax: +1.614.718.7187 Email: mailto:[log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Håvard Hjulstad [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:52 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ISOJAC] Missing alpha-2 identifiers All these alpha-2 identifiers have been published in ISO 639-1:2002, and they were also included in drafts since 1999. The errors on the web site in very unfortunate, and I want to apologize that I haven't discovered them before. But it still is "just" an error. Can we do the following: In document http://lcweb.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/codechanges.html the 14 alpha-2 identifiers are added in their chronological place (between 1998 and 2000). A separate text is added after the main table. The text could say something like: "14 alpha-2 identifiers were approved in 1999 and included in ISO 639-1:2002. Regretfully these identifiers have been missing in earlier versions of the tables on this web site. They have now been included." Håvard -----Original Message----- From: Rebecca S. Guenther [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 8. januar 2003 21:57 To: Håvard Hjulstad Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Missing alpha-2 identifiers To members of the ISO639 JAC: someone brought to my attention that there was a 2-character code for "Divehi" in the 639-1 revision that was not on the master code list. Thus I started a discussion with Havard (see below). Yesterday we added "dv" while Havard looked at what else was missing. When we put up the ISO 639-2 site and included the 2-character code, we started with the document that Michael had up as I recall. So these new ones were probably missing from that. Apparently it wasn't noticed before. Someone wrote me today having just noticed that "dv" had appeared and questioned how we could add any 2-character codes to an existing 3-character one given the statement that we previously made. I suppose this was an error of documentation; was there an official mechanism to publicize these new 2-character codes that came in as part of the 639-1 revision? In any case, if we now all of a sudden include these, we will have to explain it. So I suppose the best thing would be to add them to the change page. I'm not sure which date to include; it will be added now, but the effective date would be 1999. Have these been published anywhere except in the revision that went out for ballot? Any comments on how to handle this? Rebecca On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Håvard Hjulstad wrote: > Dear Rebecca, > > I have compared the file > http://lcweb.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/langcodes.html with a corresponding > printout from my database. I thought that we had already covered these > issues, but there remain some discrepancies of two kinds: (1) Missing > alpha-2 identifiers for 14 items. (2) Differences in the English and French > names of some languages. > > Below I have listed all the missing alpha-2 identifiers. Those should be > straight-forward. Later I will make an overview of the differences in names, > as some of them might need to be looked at more closely. > > There is also one alphabetical error in this list: The order non nor nno > nob should be changed to nno nob non nor . > > Here are the missing alpha-2 identifiers: > > aka = ak = Akan > ava = av = Avaric > bam = bm = Bambara > cre = cr = Cree > div = dv = Divehi [as previously clarified] > ewe = ee = Ewe > ful = ff = Fulah > ibo = ig = Igbo > kau = kr = Kanuri > kon = kg = Kongo > lub = lu = Luba-Katanga > lug = lg = Ganda > oji = oj = Ojibwa > ven = ve = Venda > > All these alpha-2 identifiers are identified as "Finalized 1999" in my > database, which basically means that they were included during the revision, > before the JAC became involved. > > Best regards, > Håvard > > ------------------------- > Håvard Hjulstad mailto:[log in to unmask] > Solfallsveien 31 > NO-1430 Ås, Norway > tel: +47 64963684 & +47 64944233 > mob: +47 90145563 > http://www.hjulstad.com/havard/ > ------------------------- > > >