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I'm sorry; I sent that message before I had completed reading my mail.

Rebecca

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Håvard Hjulstad wrote:

> That has already been done; I hope you have all received it.
> 
> Regards,
> Håvard
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ISO JAC Voting Member List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> Rebecca S. Guenther
> Sent: 29. januar 2003 15:19
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [JACVOTE] ISO 639 JAC ballot 11-2003 - Southern Altai
> 
> 
> Perhaps these comments should be sent to the ISOJAC list so that some of
> our experts may respond. Does anyone object to that?
> 
> Rebecca
> 
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Anila Angjeli wrote:
> 
> > ISO 639 Ballot -- New item: Southern Altai
> >
> >
> > Submitted by (your name, please): Anila Angjeli
> >
> > (A) -- Inclusion:
> > (1)
> > ___  I am in favour of including the individual language "Southern Altai"
> in
> > 639-2 (alpha-3 code)
> > _X_  I am opposed to including the individual language "Southern Altai" in
> > 639-2 (alpha-3 code)
> >
> > Comment :
> > I'm presenting here the pont of view of "Les langues du monde" (I have
> already
> > quoted) about Altaï :
> > >From the classification point of view  it considers the Altaic groupe as
> part of
> > the turkish languages
> > These languages (with dialectical variants) are spoken in the territories
> > previously  known as autonomous territoy of Oyrates.
> > Two major branches are to be distinguished according to the geographical
> > situation of the peoples speaking these languages : that of the languages
> spoken
> > in the Southern Regions of the territory and the other one comprising
> languages
> > (and dialects) spoken by the people of the Northern Regions.
> > In the Southern Region one distinguishes :
> > - The "Altaï" itself  [i with diaeresis], indigenous name "Altay-kizi"[z
> with
> > caron] called "Oyrat" or "Oyröt" or "White Kalmouks" or " Mountain
> Kalmouks" by
> > the russians ( in russian  "gorniye")
> > - The Teletout" or "Telenget" (with slight differencies between them).
> >
> > In the Northern Region of the Altaï groupe it distinguishes :
> > the Koumand
> > the Tatar cern'eviye - (russian name) or Yis-kizi
> > the Sor
> > theTatar tomsko-kuzn'etkiye.
> >
> > I find that the analysis given about Altaï as one of the languages
> > spoken in the Southern Region of the Altai Groupe clarifies the
> > interest of the requester "in the southern version of Altai as a
> > separate language" and the appelation " Gorno-Altaisk" which obviously
> > stands for "Altaï of the mountains". That is why I consider it more
> > advisable to include Altaï (and not spécifically Southern Altäi) in
> > the standard.
> >
> > (B) -- Identifier:
> > (Please vote even if you are opposed to the inclusion of the item)
> > (2)
> > __  I accept the alpha-3 identifier "alt" for Southern Altai (if to be
> > included)
> > _X_  I do not accept the identifier "alt" -- Comment:
> > Following the above reasoning I shoud rather accept the identifier "alt"
> for
> > Altai (and not for Southern Altai)
> >
> >
> > (C) -- Language names:
> > (3)
> > ___  I accept the English name "Southern Altai" (if to be included)
> > _X_  I do not accept the English name "Southern Altai" -- Comment:
> > For the same reasons I suggest the English name: "Altai" and not "Southern
> > Altai"
> >
> > (4)
> > __  I accept the French name "altaï du Sud" (if to be included)
> > _X_  I do not accept the French name "altaï du Sud" -- Comment:
> > I suggest the French name "altaï" and not "altaï du sud"
> >
> >
>