This has been something I've spoken about numerous times at the Music
Library Association for at least 40 years.  Fear of the copyright issue has
killed any seriious discussion in the past.

Certainly the alternate cylinder dub idea is fine but, according to the
current reading of the copyright law, they can't exchange their work.

Well, of course they can.  Make the tapes where the cylinders are, make a CD
copy, send it to any  country with the 75 year law, press and import it.

This is happening at present with a number of reissue projects of which I'm

Steve Smolian

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CDs made from old recordings,
Five or one or lifetime hoardings,
Made at home or concert hall,
Text and pics explain it all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt Nauck" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:36 PM
Subject: [ARSCLIST] Not at all off topic

> At 07:59 PM 3/2/2003, you wrote:
> >This is not the place to discuss other, somewhat related (maybe)
> >technologies.  This is an audio list.
> >
> >Many of us who participate are self-employed professionals.  We enter
> >discussions related to our professional and audio interests to share our
> >knowledge and experience with others and to be enlightened in turn.
> >
> >The time it takes to scan messages concerning barely related fields is
> >lost work time.  Even filtering out those by particular people doesn't
> >work as the responses to their postings show up.
> >
> >Many of us with discographic interests, myself included, have
> >from 78-C as a result of its overly chatty nature-often wildly off topic,
> >political tirades and general blather.  The cost of fresh input, to me
> >anyway, was simply not worth plowing through the morass.
> >
> >Don't let this happen here.  Please keep this list focussed.
> I do agree with you 100% Steve. However, this particular post is relevant.
> Simply replace the word book with recording. It is only a matter of time
> before a formal effort is made to do the same thing with sound recordings.
> In fact, I have proposed a similar idea:
> Why should several archives spend valuable time, money and resources
> digitizing the same audio media? For instance, if I am not mistaken UCSB
> and Belfer are both planning to use Archeophones to tranfer their cylinder
> collections. What a job! But if Susan has a clean copy of EdBA 4400 and
> transfers it, why can't she make an entry in a database saying
> EDBA 4400 take A transferred at 160 rpm, flat eq, 3.5 conical stylus,
> cylinder condition excellent (or poor)
> Then David can skip 4400 and transfer 4401 which isn't in the master
> database. Or if Susan copied a poor cylinder, then David can upgrade 4400
> with an M- cylinder.
> I'm not suggesting that the tunes be made available - that's a decision
> lawyers can deal with - I am simply saying let's spend our resources
> wisely. In any event, I would think that if a given institution owns a
> of a given recording in the database, then the master transfer could
> legally be made available to them.
> Eventually, you would have Audio Alexandria!
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