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At 08:30 AM 4/29/2003 -0400, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: >Why the following? > ><name type="conference"> ><namePart>International Workshop on Plasma-Based Ion Implantation >(1993: University of Wisconsin--Madison)</namePart> ></name> > >I see this a lot with these example records, and I assume they're a >holdover from MARC practices, but isn't the above title mixing in >non-title data (date and place) that should go elsewhere? And >shouldn't the MODS user guide reflect best practices, rather than >repeat these errors? Actually, the date and place are often considered part of the name of the conference. Not always, but often. The date of publication of the proceedings still goes into the date field -- that could be different from the date of the conference itself. And the place of publication still goes into the place of publication field. So when ACM publishes conference proceedings, the publisher is ACM, the place of publication is New York, yet the conference may have taken place in Peoria a year earlier. The title on the conference proceedings will read something like: 5th conference on wombats, January, 2003, Peoria. >Three other examples: > ><titleInfo> ><title>Oklahoma [sound recording] ; Carousel ; South Pacific</title> ></titleInfo> > ><name type="conference"> ><namePart>Paris Peace Conference (1919-1920)</namePart> ></name> > ><titleInfo> ><title>Portals to the world</title> ><partName>Selected Internet resources</partName> ><partName>Andorra [electronic resource]</partName> ></titleInfo> Odd though it seems, these are not incorrect. It really depends on what title is on the item you are creating metadata for. With books and even journal articles it's often relatively simple, but other documents often have titles that have parts and bits and pieces in them. This is why the library cataloging rules are 400+ pages long. It's also true that citations are less rigorous in defining titles than library catalogs, mainly because we can't expect all authors to absorb a tome of rules. So I'm not surprised that library cataloging looks odd. [A teaser: when a book is written by a spirit speaking through a medium, who should be listed as the author of the book?] kc ********* Karen Coyle California Digital Library 510-987-0567 *********