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Apparently they are not sold outside Japan, and there only to banking and innsurance environments. We ahve to raise more pressure on them to make them available to the archival community as such larsg -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Aaron Z Snyder [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sendt: 26. juni 2003 12:38 Til: [log in to unmask] Emne: Re: [ARSCLIST] SV: [ARSCLIST] CD differences Lars Gaustad wrote: This is from a report on a meeting Unesco and IASA had with Tape and CD manufacturers in Paris just about a year ago: asked how the Verbatim professional product varied from that commonly available Torsten Leye replied that the disks were a selected line in the factory. The production controls were tighter and the materials used better quality and, therefore, more expensive. The ingredients of the dye were better; the reflective layer better; a special lacquer coating was used. The cost was about 20% higher than normal. The disks were marketed under the name "Ultra Life Plus". ******************************************* I've searched the Verbatim website and can't find any reference to "Ultra Life Plus". Does anyone know if these CD-Rs are sold in the US? If so, where can they be purchased? Aaron Z