On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 11:56, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > Followup observations/questions: > (not sure if a conference goes > as a title or a name, particularly when you consider they are often > numbered (e.g. - "23rd Meeting of Whatever"). That depends on your cataloging rules. Library rules say that the general conference name is the author (it's a special kind of author and there is specific coding for conferences as authors), and the title of that specific conference (usually it's "theme") is the title. (I think of this as the difference between the conference "body" and the conference publication.) Since conference publications are often organized by conference volunteers, and therefor may lack full information on the publication itself, there is a NISO standard for title pages for conference proceedings that guides one to provide all of the necessary information. Here are some conference authors and titles from a library catalog: Conference International Conference on Medical Image Computing and Computer-Assisted Intervention (5th : 2002 : Tokyo, Japan) Title Medical image computing and computer-assisted intervention--MICCAI 2002 : 5th International Conference, Tokyo, Japan, September 25-28, 2002 : proceedings / Takeyoshi Dohi, Ron Kikinis, (eds) ------------------------------------- Conference SIGGRAPH (Conference) (12th : 1985 : San Francisco, Calif.) Title SIGGRAPH '85 conference proceedings, July 22-26, 1985, San Francisco, California / edited by Brian A. Barsky ; sponsored by the Association for Computing Machinery's Special Interest Group on Computer Graphics > > 4) This is a little extreme, but I've run into it: > > Does MODS have all the facilities to deal with an unpublished letter, > with an unknown author, with an only vaguely known ("cerca") date? I > remember the issue of the last came up awhile back, but does it make > sense to distinguish between "anonymous" authors and unknown authors, > either in cataloguing or in MODS? Again, that's a cataloging rules question. There is a difference between an item that has no author (usually works of collective authorship) and one that is written by an individual who chose to remain anonymous. If your discipline cares about such things, and that would be the case in archives of unpublished letters, then you will need a rule that determines how you handle those items. Archivists use different cataloging rules from libraries, and I'm not familiar with them. I have seen records, though, where the cataloger made a best guess as to the author and that was made clear through the coding, i.e. [Smith, John?]. Also, in texts from a few centuries ago, the author may actually be listed on the title page as "Anonymous" -- in which case that becomes the author in the library record since it is actually printed as such. The real problem with anonymous is that it's not always the same anonymous, and therefore it's not very good information. There is actually an attempt to distinguish between the anonymous authors since we can generally know that an author writing in 1823 as anonymous is not the same one writing in 1990. So there are a lot of listings for anonymous in a library catalog like that of the Library of Congress, and they aren't all the same: Anonymous. Anonymous, 1900-1973. Anonymous, Brother, 1927- - See: Desbiens, Jean-Paul, 1927- Anonymous Colombian Woman Anonymous conqueror - Anonymous II - See: Anonymous II, 13th cent. Anonymous II, 13th cent. - Anonymous investor. Anonymous IV. Anonymous IV, 13th cent. kc